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Did the Supreme Court leave itself open to litigation?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:00 pm
they mentioned that nobody without direct ties to U.S. residents would be allowed in, but that seems vague as to what constitutes a direct tie
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:01 pm to hsfolk
You do know the Supreme Court cannot be sued?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:02 pm to hsfolk
They listed out some examples of what a direct tie will look like.
In the end this will be a moot question anyway because before all of this can be figured out the Executive Order will expire and new travels guidelines will be instituted by the proper departments.
In the end this will be a moot question anyway because before all of this can be figured out the Executive Order will expire and new travels guidelines will be instituted by the proper departments.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:02 pm to hsfolk
I'm sure the Muslim Brotherhood is drafting the case now. The are hopeful their case versus the USSC will be in a Sharia Court.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:02 pm to hsfolk
That's not what they said at all. And their ruling was specifically regarding Trump's EO.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:03 pm to hsfolk
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Did the Supreme Court leave itself open to litigation?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:03 pm to hsfolk
Nah, but the ruling's interpretation will probably be challenged when someone gets stopped from boarding a plane and phone's back to the US. Other judges will have to fight that battle.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:03 pm to hsfolk
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ban on visitors from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen can be enforced if those visitors lack a "credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States."
Seems pretty straight forward
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:03 pm to hsfolk
While SCOTUS gave guidance, yes, there is some ambiguity. But no, SCOTUS is never "open to litigation".
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:04 pm to Bamapossum
I'm going to be kind and presume that the OP meant to say "Didn't the SCOTUS know that with this ruling being so unclear, it is just going to invite more and more lawsuits and drag this thing on for years"?
At least I hope that is what he meant.
I said I was being kind.
At least I hope that is what he meant.
I said I was being kind.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:13 pm to hsfolk
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they mentioned that nobody without direct ties to U.S. residents would be allowed in, but that seems vague as to what constitutes a direct tie
Supreme Court.
Supreme.
SUPREME.
SUPREME.
SUPREME.
I hope this clarifies the answer for you.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:14 pm to Eurocat
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I'm going to be kind and presume that the OP meant to say "Didn't the SCOTUS know that with this ruling being so unclear, it is just going to invite more and more lawsuits and drag this thing on for years"?
Which is precisely (maybe minus the "years" aspect) that Gorsuch said.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:14 pm to hsfolk
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they mentioned that nobody without direct ties to U.S. residents would be allowed in, but that seems vague as to what constitutes a direct tie
Did you read the ruling? They did spell it out in detail, examples are
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If U.S. citizens claim close relatives from one of the targeted countries, they will be able to do so.
If U.S. universities have accepted students from one of the targeted countries, the students will be able to enter the U.S. and start their studies.
If a U.S. business has given a job to a worker from one of the targeted countries, the worker will be able to do that job.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:17 pm to hsfolk
Maybe to the Ultimate Supreme Court?
Or
The Secret Top Supreme Court?
Or
The Tip Top Supreme Court?
Or
The Secret Top Supreme Court?
Or
The Tip Top Supreme Court?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:28 pm to TigerintheNO
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Did you read the ruling? They did spell it out in detail, examples are
Thomas seems to think there is cause for concern:
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Moreover, I fear that the Court’s remedy will prove unworkable. Today’s compromise will burden executive officials with the task of deciding—on peril of contempt— whether individuals from the six affected nations who wish to enter the United States have a sufficient connection to a person or entity in this country. See ante, at 11– 12. The compromise also will invite a flood of litigation until this case is finally resolved on the merits, as parties and courts struggle to determine what exactly constitutes a “bona fide relationship,” who precisely has a “credible claim” to that relationship, and whether the claimed relationship was formed “simply to avoid §2(c)” of Executive Order No. 13780, ante, at 11, 12. And litigation of the factual and legal issues that are likely to arise will presumably be directed to the two District Courts whose initial orders in these cases this Court has now— unanimously—found sufficiently questionable to be stayed as to the vast majority of the people potentially affected.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:31 pm to hsfolk
I downvoted you for just being plain stupid. Seriously read up on how the government works.
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