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Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:43 pm to ihometiger
But hey now that those damn statues are gone them ports finna rock.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:44 pm to ihometiger
Its kind of misleading to just talk about containers. Yea Houston is setup much better for container ships.
What NOLA should have done was when they redid the Huey P, make it higher and make Avondale Shipyard a container terminal. That would have been very smart investing for the future.
Fwiw, the port of South LA is the largest in the country tonnage wise
What NOLA should have done was when they redid the Huey P, make it higher and make Avondale Shipyard a container terminal. That would have been very smart investing for the future.
Fwiw, the port of South LA is the largest in the country tonnage wise
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:44 pm to ihometiger
Still got all those John Cena movies being made in N.O. Houston can't say that
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:46 pm to ihometiger
Probably payback for the Katrina refugees New Orleans sent them
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:47 pm to ihometiger
Container traffic still depends on decent rail hubs once it reaches port. Frankly Mobile and Houston are better positioned for that given Louisiana's aversion to investing in concrete.
Port of south Louisiana (Baton Rouge to New Orleans) is still a bulk cargo leader and probsbly always will be.
Port of south Louisiana (Baton Rouge to New Orleans) is still a bulk cargo leader and probsbly always will be.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:48 pm to Bmath
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You don't think the extra time and hassle of navigating the MS River
Not really. Pilot fees count for less than 1% of the cost to get a ship from point A to point B.
There isnt a hassle getting the ships in and out of the river to make companies go elsewhere.
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and the riverboat pilot monopoly has anything to do with this?
Every ship coming into a port in the US requires a pilot. And fwiw, since this thread is comparing Houston to NOLA, Houston ship pilots make more than NOLA pilots.
Nola has the hardest route in the country and make a little above average for ship pilots in the country. They earn their money
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:48 pm to Deactived
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Fwiw, the port of South LA is the largest in the country tonnage wise
That's due to the bulk cargo that is transferred in the lower delta between Baton Rouge and the gulf.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:48 pm to 45acp
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Has containerized cargo ever really been the port of New Orleans' bread and butter?
Well it's 21% less so now.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:48 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Get woke NOLA
I think that's part of the problem; NOLA has always been pretty "woke"
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:49 pm to ihometiger
Glad I moved back to Atlanta and opened an office in Savannah in April to take advantage of all the tilt warehouse projects that are happening. LA just ain't got it and unfortunately never will.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:49 pm to Deactived
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Every ship coming into a port in the US requires a pilot. And fwiw, since this thread is comparing Houston to NOLA, Houston ship pilots make more than NOLA pilots.
Same song and dance for the Columbia river in Oregon.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:50 pm to shutterspeed
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New Orleans is done. It's over.
One well timed failure of the Old River Control Structure, and we can start over in Morgan City.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:50 pm to member12
I understand that. The article/thread just makes it seem like Nola is getting trounced in shipping when we are not.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:52 pm to ihometiger
If you fly into Houston over the gulf you'll see 30-40 boats stacked up outside of Galveston waiting to go in at all times.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:54 pm to Deactived
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The article/thread just makes it seem like Nola is getting trounced in shipping when we are not.
For containerized cargo, it is. I move a lot out of Mobile and Houston. Rarely South Louisiana anymore.
Port of South Louisiana is also misleading in this context. That includes everything on the Mississippi River from Baton Rouge to the gulf. It's not centralized in New Orleans and thus isn't as good of a barometer on the supply chain dependencies on the city as "Houston Ship Channel" is for Houston. It's much more broad.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:57 pm to 45acp
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Has containerized cargo ever really been the port of New Orleans' bread and butter?
Given that containerized cargo is a fairly infant industry, no port was really bread and butter for it. The amount of foresight and investment some ports had in the evolution of shipping allowed them to be better positioned as the shipping industry transitioned.
New Orleans, per usual for a Louisiana city, did nothing to invest and prepare for the transition, hence why they have fallen drastically.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:57 pm to NCCAOKIUNHLSU
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I think that's part of the problem; NOLA has always been pretty "woke"
Wont argue that with you
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:58 pm to member12
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Port of South Louisiana is also misleading in this context. That includes everything on the Mississippi River from Baton Rouge to the gulf
Iirc, Port of Baton Rouge is its own port, Port of South LA is between BR and Nola, and Port of Nola is its own port.
The numbers from them have always been counted separately, correct?
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