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Military folks, thoughts on good guy with a gun
Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:51 pm
Do you trust your average citizen that goes to the range every so often pulling out a gun in an active shooter situation?
I certainly think Americans have the right to carry a gun, but I've always thought the whole idea of a good guy with a gun diffusing a violent situation is a stretch.
I certainly think Americans have the right to carry a gun, but I've always thought the whole idea of a good guy with a gun diffusing a violent situation is a stretch.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 7:52 pm
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:55 pm to Machine
Haven't you been reading the paper? It happens all the time.
Oops... sorry, my bad. It happens all the time but the media refuses to ever cover it unless it is a local new outlet... maybe.
Oops... sorry, my bad. It happens all the time but the media refuses to ever cover it unless it is a local new outlet... maybe.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:56 pm to Machine
quote:
Do you trust your average citizen that goes to the range every so often pulling out a gun in an active shooter situation?
I certainly think Americans have the right to carry a gun, but I've always thought the whole idea of a good guy with a gun diffusing a violent situation is a stretch.
Generally, no, but it obviously depends a lot on who the "good guy" is. A former soldier or police officer or even someone who grew up around firearms and hunts or shoots a lot is a net positive in those situations. I wouldn't trust most Americans with a firearm in an active situation, though.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:56 pm to Machine
Enough to hope if I'm in a situation like the England events that some good ole baw has one that's loaded..
Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:56 pm to Machine
Opposed to trusting the bad guy?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:56 pm to Machine
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Do you trust your average citizen that goes to the range every so often pulling out a gun in an active shooter situation?
I'm in the military and trust me, I would take your average citizen that goes to the range over some of my comrades every single time.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:59 pm to RollTide1987
There's truth here. I member the first day I was in combat. The point is no one knows how someone will react in a situation where they might have to shoot to kill, or get shot at.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:01 pm to Iowa Golfer
This is true. And then you have people like me who aren't very good shots. That's why I'm in the Navy. 
I barely qualified marksman in bootcamp. I had to do the course twice. But my eye sight is terrible and I get double vision when I concentrate sometimes. I think it's the result of a head injury I sustained when I was little.
I barely qualified marksman in bootcamp. I had to do the course twice. But my eye sight is terrible and I get double vision when I concentrate sometimes. I think it's the result of a head injury I sustained when I was little.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:02 pm to Machine
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Do you trust your average citizen that goes to the range every so often pulling out a gun in an active shooter situation?
Yes. The average soldier qualifies with a weapon and live ammo once or twice a year. A civilian with a CCW probably goes much more often and knows their weapon better.
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I've always thought the whole idea of a good guy with a gun diffusing a violent situation is a stretch.
Nobody will accuse you of being terribly well educated on this topic.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:03 pm to Machine
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I certainly think Americans have the right to carry a gun, but I've always thought the whole idea of a good guy with a gun diffusing a violent situation is a stretch.
I'd trust any of my friends with a gun over almost any cop. Most of us have been shooting since childhood
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:06 pm to Machine
Do you think the average person who goes on a public shooting spree is some highly skilled special forces marksman?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:07 pm to Machine
Depends
hostage situation, no.
Random active shooter spraying the mall, yes
If I'm shopping or at a movie and I'm helpless I'd appreciate an armed Good Samaritan drawing the attention of or eliminating the threat
hostage situation, no.
Random active shooter spraying the mall, yes
If I'm shopping or at a movie and I'm helpless I'd appreciate an armed Good Samaritan drawing the attention of or eliminating the threat
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:08 pm to Machine
quote:
Do you trust your average citizen that goes to the range every so often pulling out a gun in an active shooter situation?
I trust them more than the active shooter.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:08 pm to Machine
The more interesting question, IMO, for everyone who carries is do YOU decide to get involved in a shooting situation if you have the option to retreat / leave?
That is not as easy a question to answer as most people think.
That is not as easy a question to answer as most people think.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:09 pm to Machine
quote:Silly question.
Do you trust your average citizen that goes to the range every so often pulling out a gun in an active shooter situation?
I see this question posed all the time and it's always approaching from the wrong angle.
Do I think the average joe in an active shooter situation will succeed 100% of the time or even most of the time? Of course not.
Do I think that if NO ONE shoots back, the active shooter will kill more people than if someone does more often than not.
Of course.
Put simply. I don't know how fricked the targets are if the average joe tries to help. But, I know how fricked they are if no one tries.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:09 pm to Machine
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I certainly think Americans have the right to carry a gun, but I've always thought the whole idea of a good guy with a gun diffusing a violent situation is a stretch.
Let's say the good guy with a gun succeeds 2% of the time in stopping the mass killer.
Welp. That's people alive today that wouldn't be alive otherwise.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:10 pm to Iowa Golfer
quote:exactly, my whole point.
The point is no one knows how someone will react in a situation where they might have to shoot to kill, or get shot at.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:10 pm to weagle99
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The more interesting question, IMO, for everyone who carries is do YOU decide to get involved in a shooting situation if you have the option to retreat / leave?
I'd think if the shooters attention isn't directed at you you would have the advantage and should make a move.
If you are in the initial line of fire without your weapon drawn retreat would be natural
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:11 pm to Machine
I saw an article about this on the firarms blog. The author estimated that only 10% of people with firearms licenses were competent to carry them; familiar the law, the rules of engagement, and proficient with their fire arms.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:13 pm to Machine
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exactly, my whole point.
It's a non-point.
If an active shooter, un-deterred would kill 100 people in a given situation and the average joe fails 99 times out of 100 but in the 100th situation, the active shooter only gets to kill 50, that's a win.
I mean, cause, ya know. The active shooter is gonna keep shooting until stopped.
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