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re: Teachers fired for giving student with ADHD ‘Most Likely to Not Pay Attention’ award

Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:57 pm to
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:57 pm to
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That's just funny. Because it's true.


Yeah, but make that joke in private behind the kids back.

For an adult, who's entire job is to help guide these kids to being better people, to basically say "you can't handle school" and laugh about it in front of every other kid in the grade and most of their parents too is pretty fricked up.

Teacher should have known better and deserves to be fired.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:07 pm to
Obviously your idiocy extends beyond your sports fandom.

This kid needs to realize, with a quickness, that no one in the real world post-school gives a frick about how hard you claim it is to pay attention. Either you produce, or you are jobless. This is as it should be.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18181 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:13 pm to
The B1 on the trophy tells me that they gave this award to someone in each of their blocks (A1, A2, B1, B2).

They probably thought it was funny (its really not), but this parent got pissed about it and raised hell.

My senior year, I enrolled in Calculus. The teacher gave homework on the first day and I had four credits of Math required for graduation so I said screw it and dropped the class after talking to my parents.

I'm the captain of the academic team, a good student and ended up with the highest ACT score in my class and today I have a terminal degree. But when I brought the drop form to her to sign, she announced in front of the class that I would make nothing of my life.

It was the only time in 13 years of K-12, my dad ever went to the school. He was pissed. Later my senior year I won the district academic championship for our school by answering a math question as I looked her straight in the eye.

Teachers do shitty things. 80% of them are worthless and completely overshadow the 20% that are doing a good job.
This post was edited on 5/20/17 at 11:18 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:16 pm to
So you were weak and didn't want to to work extra, imagine what you could have accomplished had you applied yourself
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18181 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:19 pm to
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So you were weak and didn't want to to work extra, imagine what you could have accomplished had you applied yourself



That was basically the line she gave when she was forced to apologize. But I wanted to chase poon my senior year and math wasn't my strong point.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:22 pm to
Those poor snowflake Adderallers...
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:23 pm to
I was voted Most Likely To Die In The Electric Chair.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:23 pm to
So you admit you slacked and did not reach your highest ability....
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:28 pm to
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This kid needs to realize, with a quickness, that no one in the real world post-school gives a frick about how hard you claim it is to pay attention. Either you produce, or you are jobless. This is as it should be.


No shite. I agree. I don't even believe ADD/ADHD exist and are just to make money for pharmaceutical companies to make money. And the kid probably is a dumb little POS.

But that doesn't matter. The point is that no matter how much the kid probably deserves it, an adult should never make fun of preteen child. Especially when that adult is a mentor, and the joke is being made publicly in front of 90% of everybody the child knows in their life.

There are other ways to go about attempting to show this child how they're fricking up. This will only do more harm and set this kid back even further.


And for the record the parents are idiots too and doing just as much harm to the kids psyche by keeping this alive and dragging this to the media. Be satisfied with the idiot teachers getting fired and move on with your life.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:35 pm to
Even if you disagree with the teachers and think it was tasteless I find it hard to believe that you agree it's a fireable offense
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17857 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:48 pm to
That's awesome - the award.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:52 pm to
Meh I have no problem with them being fired, it was tasteless and unwarranted.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:02 am to
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The B1 on the trophy tells me that they gave this award to someone in each of their blocks (A1, A2, B1, B2)


That says 8-1

That's how my middle school was set up but we called them "teams" instead of blocks.

Each grade had 3 teams (8-1, 8-2, 8-3) that each had their own 4 core teachers. They were almost like their own grades within a grade, and for the most part operated independently of each other.

At the end of my 6th grade year my "team" did something similar where we voted on superlatives. I was voted "cutest boy" on Team 6-2. I'm 26, it's been 15 years since the end of 6th grade, and I still remember that dumb little award. Hell, I still use the fact that I was voted cutest in 6th grade when I'm talking to girls on Tinder or at the bar.

Point being, this kid is going to remember getting embarrassed like that for a long time. It was a dumb idea by these teachers. What was a funny joke in the teachers lounge becomes a pretty mean thing when carried out at an end of year awards banquet. And if the teachers lacked the judgement to realize this was a bad idea then they don't need to educating preteens and deserves to be fired.


And anc, the teacher in your story is a POS too. She deserved a talking to by her boss.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:12 am to
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I find it hard to believe that you agree it's a fireable offense


They had this award engraved on a plaque. They planned it out and had plenty of time to think about it. The part that really sets it over the edge is that have it to the kid at an awards banquet where the entire grade (maybe the whole school) and all their parents were watching. When you're in middle school that's at least 90% of the people you know in that room.

At the very least they deserve a heavy reprimand. Firing may be harsh, especially if the teachers had a solid track record. But that kind of lack f judgement with plenty of time to think about it shows pretty clearly they don't need to in a position to mentor preteens.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:27 am to
I coached a soccer team and the league warned me of one kid with ADHD or some shite. They even said the mom may have to come on the field during the practices and games.

I said frick that, and treated the kid like everybody else. I ignored his games and shite. At first he looked at me like I was insane, like nobody had ever done that before. Then he started acting like the rest of them, and even better than most.

A lot of the diagnosed shite in these kids could have been prevented by half decent parenting.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 12:28 am
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:30 am to
Well yeah... I was diagnosed ADHD in 6th grade... My parents gave me a squeeze ball and told me if I get in trouble it was my arse when I got home.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22844 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:45 am to
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Even if you disagree with the teachers and think it was tasteless I find it hard to believe that you agree it's a fireable offense


Are you kidding me? The firing was probably the easiest in history. They gave an award making fun of someone with a classified disability.

People may disagree with an ADHD diagnoses, but it is still an considered a disability.

I will agree that ADHD is probably overdiagnosed because most of these conditions are diagnosed because mainly based off of accounts from the parent/kid. On top of that some prescribers just don't care to be more conservative with these medications.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 12:46 am
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63406 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 1:04 am to
It probably wasn't the first time they gave that award and it was surely a joke that was not out of the blue. They should have given it to a kid that didn't have this turrble disease, like they probably did in the past, but I doubt the kid's "handicap" played a part in the decision.

Kids take pride in the class clown or frickup role these days, and in the good old days as well. Apparently this one didn't.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 2:21 pm to
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They gave an award making fun of someone with a classified cop-out.


FIFY
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 2:36 pm to
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So you admit you slacked and did not reach your highest ability....


I bet you've given 100% in every situation you've ever been in every day of your life.

That is such a stupid and lazy argument. Brain power and give a shite are finite resources just like everything else. The guy wanted to chase tail his last year of high school. I think not taking another high school math is ok in the grand scheme of things.
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