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re: Amazon Echo vs Google Home - Which is best?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 5:58 pm to humblepie
Posted on 5/5/17 at 5:58 pm to humblepie
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No not the same... But let's just pretend your correct because internet aguments are dumb.
Them ditching an assistant while everyone else (amazon, samsung, apple) have them implemented is much closer on the spectrum to them ditching gmail than the reverse argument.
It honestly is just a really poor argument to try to make. Hell google has had an assistant longer than siri has been around.
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 6:00 pm
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Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:33 pm to bbap
Also the price for entry is lower for Echo. The dot is only $40.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:08 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
The dot and echo are not the same thing. Google home is cheaper than the echo. Yes the dot is the cheapest of the three but the dot is only half a step up from a phone that comes with google assistant. I don't see Google bothering to try to do a Google home lite like the dot. They already have that in everyone's phones going forward.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 3:46 am to bbap
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The dot and echo are not the same thing.
What's the difference?
Posted on 5/7/17 at 7:01 am to Breesus
One has a big speaker built in (echo) and one one has a very basic speaker mostly only good for responding to your commands(dot).
The microphone array is the same in both.
The microphone array is the same in both.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 7:12 am to bbap
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I don't see Google bothering to try to do a Google home lite like the dot. They already have that in everyone's phones going forward.
Having both a dot and Android phones I must say they are not comparable. The dot can recognize your voice over other noise anywhere in the room. Android phones just don't work that well. Sure if you are holding your phone it works well but I don't see it as a replacement for my Dot.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:29 am to cardswinagain
I've had my Google Home since Christmas and while good it's certainly not flawless.
o It has locked up three or four times and I've had to cycle power.
o Several times I've had to repeat commands after GH has acknowledged receiving but then can't execute them.
o A few days ago when it starting playing music the volume was much higher than where I listen.
o It has locked up three or four times and I've had to cycle power.
o Several times I've had to repeat commands after GH has acknowledged receiving but then can't execute them.
o A few days ago when it starting playing music the volume was much higher than where I listen.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:57 pm to ArkLaTexTiger
I own a Dot and use it daily. Listen to the news, then the weather, then listen to local sports on 104.5 ESPN Radio on Tune In.
I have Amazon Prime so I stream music from there, TuneIn Radio, and Amazon Music's Premium Service. I can also easily stream Apple Music through the Dot by simply saying, "Alexa, connect my phone," and then just playing music using the phone or other device I'm streaming Apple Music on.
I control my home security system and I bought a WiFi Thermostat that's Alexa enabled though I haven't taken the time to install it just yet.
It cost me less than $30 with a coupon I got during the Holidays for buying it on Prime.
The price point and what I use it for make Google Home a joke in comparison. I understand that it's not for many people. But there is no killer app/feature/use case compared to Amazon Dot that would compel me to pay almost triple the cost of what I have currently.
It also leverages Prime, which Google has zero ability to utilize or tap into. I understand Google is awesome, but Amazon/AWS/Alexa had a biiiiig head start and a staggering amount of data already. People forget how massive AWS is.
I have Amazon Prime so I stream music from there, TuneIn Radio, and Amazon Music's Premium Service. I can also easily stream Apple Music through the Dot by simply saying, "Alexa, connect my phone," and then just playing music using the phone or other device I'm streaming Apple Music on.
I control my home security system and I bought a WiFi Thermostat that's Alexa enabled though I haven't taken the time to install it just yet.
It cost me less than $30 with a coupon I got during the Holidays for buying it on Prime.
The price point and what I use it for make Google Home a joke in comparison. I understand that it's not for many people. But there is no killer app/feature/use case compared to Amazon Dot that would compel me to pay almost triple the cost of what I have currently.
It also leverages Prime, which Google has zero ability to utilize or tap into. I understand Google is awesome, but Amazon/AWS/Alexa had a biiiiig head start and a staggering amount of data already. People forget how massive AWS is.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:46 pm to GFunk
Again GH isn't competing price wise with the dot. It's competing with the echo. The main reason to choose is your music service. If you use Google play music you'd be silly to buy an echo or dot. And vice versa.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:57 pm to bbap
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The main reason to choose is your music service.
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bbap
It wasn't in my case. For millions of people it absolutely is cost, and the Dot+an already owned BT speaker is far superior of an option when you can BYO Streaming Service while utilizing a much more mature set of compatible devices.
Again, the ability to connect to other speakers makes it comparable to Home and that's the entire point. That's why tens of millions bought the Dot and why it's so popular today.
Just because you think something is so and say something is so does not make it so. Sort've like your earlier scoffing at the way Google doesn't run out its ground balls with products and services.
Nest, Plus, Hangouts, Ara (though Ara was stillborn in a manner of speaking)...there are several examples of products Google entered into with money-making and/or market share leaders for competitors and subsequently just allowed their efforts to Peter out while hyping people into investing time, effort or money into it.
But please spin some more.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:55 pm to GFunk
They killed Google+ after trying twice.
Picasa, chrome os, Google health, Hangouts, Google fiber, and I am sure Google onhub won't have much longer.
Google has lofty goals but they have abandoned significant projects even after investing significant capital.
Amazon fire phone was similar, but that is all I can come up with
Picasa, chrome os, Google health, Hangouts, Google fiber, and I am sure Google onhub won't have much longer.
Google has lofty goals but they have abandoned significant projects even after investing significant capital.
Amazon fire phone was similar, but that is all I can come up with
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:25 am to GFunk
Wait I never said Google doesn't kill projects. But you listed a bunch of auxiliary projects. Google has had an assistant longer than Apple has had siri. It's really uniformed to compare it to those other projects and pretend they're created equally.
I'm not sure about more compatible devices. And again Dot does not have a speaker. It is not the same thing as echo/GH. Thus the different price point. Also it only connects by a cord or Bluetooth. Fine for some but lack of wifi is pretty significant. Or have they added that to the dot? I honestly don't know.
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It wasn't in my case. For millions of people it absolutely is cost, and the Dot+an already owned BT speaker is far superior of an option when you can BYO Streaming Service while utilizing a much more mature set of compatible devices.
I'm not sure about more compatible devices. And again Dot does not have a speaker. It is not the same thing as echo/GH. Thus the different price point. Also it only connects by a cord or Bluetooth. Fine for some but lack of wifi is pretty significant. Or have they added that to the dot? I honestly don't know.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 6:28 am
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:14 pm to bbap
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The dot and echo are not the same thing. Google home is cheaper than the echo. Yes the dot is the cheapest of the three but the dot is only half a step up from a phone that comes with google assistant. I don't see Google bothering to try to do a Google home lite like the dot. They already have that in everyone's phones going forward
The dot is the exact same thing as the echo with the only exception is it does not a have a big arse speaker. It does come with a speaker built in which doesn't sound too bad honestly. I feel its a better buy because it has audio out and bluetooth. Why would I want to use Amazons inferior speaker over one that I can supply that is much better.
Regardless of price the skill set of Echo is light years ahead of Google. There are more then 5000 skills available for echo. Google just has a fraction of that.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:05 pm to bbap
Dot does have a speaker. It's lesser quality but your defense and deflection is humorous.
On and tell me more about Google Home's superiority...
Alexa dominant compared to everyone else...including Google Home.
On and tell me more about Google Home's superiority...
Alexa dominant compared to everyone else...including Google Home.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 5/9/17 at 6:28 am to bbap
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Outside of voice ordering from Amazon.com.
This is huge for me, I prefer the Amazon ecosystem because it is actually useful, but I don't use Google Music. I wish it could understand me as effectively as home, but being hooked to Amazon is better for me.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:47 am to GFunk
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Dot does have a speaker
Yeah just to reply to you. Like a smart phone speaker. Obviously i was talking about it not having a speaker to play music.
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On and tell me more about Google Home's superiority...
I never said it was superior. I said it was dumb to think it was going to be discontinued and I said if you have google play music you should buy a GH and if you have Amazon music you should buy an echo or dot.
It's almost like you are reading what you want to read.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:47 am to UAinSOUTHAL
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The dot is the exact same thing as the echo with the only exception is it does not a have a big arse speaker.
sooooo....not the same.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:49 am to UAinSOUTHAL
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Regardless of price the skill set of Echo is light years ahead of Google. There are more then 5000 skills available for echo. Google just has a fraction of that.
Hate to break it to you but outside of 10 skills on echo/dot or actions on GH no one uses that stuff. In fact the whole skills/actions are the worst part of alexa/GH. Terrible integration.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:53 am to UAinSOUTHAL
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I feel its a better buy because it has audio out and bluetooth. Why would I want to use Amazons inferior speaker over one that I can supply that is much better.
I would do this too but bluetooth isnt a very good protocol at all. And a cord isnt a much better option. So you plug your dot into the back of a receiver that is in a media closet and now you can't tell it functions. The dot really needs wifi. Or maybe soon it will get bluetooth 5.0 which apparently is 4x faster and has a much wider range than the bluetooth we are used to.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:08 am to bbap
quote:We are still very early in this game. And yeah, you or I might only use 10 skills, but it's highly doubtful we use the same 10. The thousands of other skills might be useless to you, but that doesn't mean they're useless.
Hate to break it to you but outside of 10 skills on echo/dot or actions on GH no one uses that stuff.
quote:But the skills/actions are what actually make them useful, how can they be the worst part? And what do you mean by "terrible integration"? Can you suggest a better way to make voice control useful than by allowing 3rd party developers to create their own skills/actions?
In fact the whole skills/actions are the worst part of alexa/GH. Terrible integration.
Skills/actions are the equivalent of "apps" on Android or iPhone, and you are arguing that they are basically useless and are the worst part of the platforms.
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