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re: Introducing the ZO2 Prime - Lonzo Ball's first signature shoe

Posted on 5/4/17 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by Corporal Beavis
Member since Aug 2013
1229 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 6:54 pm to
Big Baller's loose! If you can't afford the ZO2'S, you're NOT a BIG BALLER! ?? - Tweet from Lavar. This dude is on some shite
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
89617 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:04 pm to
Some dude in the comments called them "Wal Mart Kobe's"
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30490 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Not saying they're worth it even at that price(I don't think any basketball shoe is), but it's a legitimate marketing strategy.



except the market are mainly to people who:

1. ball in said shoes. Goodluck catching them in this bs for the same price as the major marketing stars.
2. sneakerheads who know the resale value is piss poor

there's always the exception, but the mass majority who invest or spend the $$ into this type of thing are like girls and brand name purses/wallets.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22864 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:13 pm to
Their main problem is their "brand". It's a terrible name and a terrible logo. It's dead just because of that.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44452 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:14 pm to
Yeah, and then parents buying for kids:

"Ok timmy, your shoe budget for this summer and fall is 500 bucks. You can get a pair of Jordans, Lebrons, AND Kyries right NOW.. or.. the ZO2s in december. "

Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
24118 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:29 pm to
Those might do well at Walmart for 20 bucks..
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:31 pm to
Would you rather 500 buy your $500 shoe or 20,000 buy your $100 shoe?
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
24686 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:43 pm to
better than Steph Curry's geriatric looking shite...
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57367 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

The logo is a ripoff of the hottest video game of the past years, overwatch


And the BBB logo is a ripoff of Big Black logo from Rob and Big
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
28989 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:58 pm to
Im starting to wonder if this guy is doing one big inside joke and we are all the victims. Surely he doesn't believe in the shite he's selling, right?


Of course, I said the same thing this time last year about a certain person who is now running the country.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
206840 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:01 pm to
This dude is gonna FAIL SO BAD...His DAD needs to STFU............
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160172 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125863 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

Only $495? Lavar really knows the market well, it seems.



maybe they would see if they were for $30 at payless
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
36340 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:06 pm to
Too much black in it.

Just like the NBA.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

Im starting to wonder if this guy is doing one big inside joke and we are all the victims. Surely he doesn't believe in the shite he's selling, right?



I always said he was the Donald Trump of b-ball dads. I have no doubt he took some of Trump's tricks and applied them to marketing Lonzo.
Posted by bayoutiger08
Cajun Country, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2008
611 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:13 pm to
$200 extra for sizes of 13 lol
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30490 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

Would you rather 500 buy your $500 shoe or 20,000 buy your $100 shoe?



Its the dumbest idea in terms of investment. Ball is literally screwing his son so hard.

Major companies have the resources to get quality material, design, manufacturer, etc from top to bottom. Doing so, their cost per shoe is low so their profit margin is high. At a total value, it comes to 2mil. At a $80 profit per shoe for 20k is 1.6mil

BBB has to independently hire those things, designs, etc. Their materials are more than likely more expensive thus their profit margin is likely lower. At total value its 250k. a profit of even 250 per shoe is 125k.

Ben Simmons singed a 5yr/10mil deal or something for his FIRST shoe endorsement. BBB have to sell 20,000 shoes, not counting cost to reach that amount.

LeBron, KD, Curry etc make like 20mil+ a year on their shoe deals. Even a B-star like Dame Lillard makes 10mil/yr. If you think Lonzo's going to be even a "B-star" player, he's going to make that kind or close to that kind of money. if you think he's gonna flail, than MAYBE this route is better (still dont believe it). big markets monopolized, Ball is costing his son a fortune at this current moment and potentially the future.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 8:18 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:24 pm to
Y'all realize tho that he has created the blueprint.

If if he does well, and is able to sell his shoes, it's like he owns his own masters. This is a shoe companies biggest fear -- this shifts the needle/power out of their hands. I love the entrepreneurialship and the "swamp draining" but I really don't like how they went about it and I don't like Lavar so I'm confused

The roll out was very good, the prices are trash but there is now a model to replicate/tweak

This is trumpian... YALL SHOULD LOVE IT HES DRAINING THE SWAMP.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 8:26 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:27 pm to
Also I love how there are no refunds until right before the first game of the year --- they are getting their bread guaranteed

I'm
Rooting for this level and type of ownership and entrepreneurialship, its exciting and I like seeing more business minded blacks. It's good for America.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160172 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:31 pm to
Seems like if he wanted to frick with the shoe companies, he'd be selling these for way cheaper. I imagine it's pretty expensive for them to produce these though, which is why they'll ultimately fail.
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