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Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:05 am to birdieman
Breakfast:
Most of the time I fast. Just black coffee. When I do eat, 2-3 eggs and bacon. Half of a banana
Lunch:
Same thing every day. Frozen veggies from Costco. Frozen chicken strips from Costco. Put some ranch dressing over them. Maybe an orange for desert.
Mid afternoon snack:
Walnuts
Dinner:
Protein and veggies. If I am craving carbs, I will eat corn chips or a sweet potato
Late night snack:
Smoothie with organic protein powder, frozen avocado, and half of a banana.
No alcohol, processed carbs, and processed sugar. You can't cheat. If I do, my hands and feet start killing me. I cook with real butter and avocado oil. I can't stress not cheating enough.
Most of the time I fast. Just black coffee. When I do eat, 2-3 eggs and bacon. Half of a banana
Lunch:
Same thing every day. Frozen veggies from Costco. Frozen chicken strips from Costco. Put some ranch dressing over them. Maybe an orange for desert.
Mid afternoon snack:
Walnuts
Dinner:
Protein and veggies. If I am craving carbs, I will eat corn chips or a sweet potato
Late night snack:
Smoothie with organic protein powder, frozen avocado, and half of a banana.
No alcohol, processed carbs, and processed sugar. You can't cheat. If I do, my hands and feet start killing me. I cook with real butter and avocado oil. I can't stress not cheating enough.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:19 am to DawgGONIT
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Plus if your gf is taking the pills for years, she is addicted. She may not be getting high off it (maybe??) but physically, her body is addicted to it, and quitting cold turkey will show it.
There is a huge - HUGE -difference between physical dependence and addiction. The need to wean off of a medication does not indicate addiction - there are other non-opioid classes of medications that also require weaning. Addiction has everything to do with compulsion and loss of control and very little to do with the need to wean rather than stop cold turkey.
Notice every common sense chronic pain anecdote has 1 downvote - Hopeful Doc doing work up in here.
There are two possible explanations: 1) he is in med school or just graduated and thinks he knows everything because he read a book
or
2) he is one of those typical clueless docs with no practical experience who has his head up his arse
I've heard from many, many people who have ended up worse after surgery to "correct" their spine issues. And regarding his extensive treatment/therapy regimen as an alternative to medication to alleviate pain, does he have any idea how expensive this would be for people with crappy (or no) insurance - especially when you factor in how much work one would have to miss for that many appointments on a weekly (or daily) basis?
Clueless. He is an example of everything that is wrong with the medical profession.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:23 am to LSU Wayne
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:36 am to KillTheGophers
quote:
arthritic pain and inflammation.
Definitely a problem with me.They prescribe me an Anti-Inflamitory Gel called Voltarin.I take the same drug in a pill form once a day.
It's almost an instant pain relief on my Rt Shoulder when it's bothering me.
I had a Total Knee Replacement on my Rt. Knee November 9,2015.
Good times.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:36 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:
Fibromyalgia
Do you know what this word means? I bet you don't.
Let me help you out- it's nerve endings that become overactive (usually from a previous physical trauma), & in layman's terms became faulty wiring sending pain signals all over the place with no rhyme or reason .
Some traumas on the body are so bad, the pain signals don't have a code to express the intensity and your nerves become
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:39 am to AUCE05
quote:
Half of a banana
Dude WTF?
The other half of that banana will throw you over the edge? Lol
Busting balls. If it works? From pain to pain free? I'd stick with it.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:57 am to TigrrrDad
quote:
Clueless. He is an example of everything that is wrong with the medical profession.
That's a tad strong. He may be new school. Read some stat somewhere that while we are 10% of the world population we consume 90% of all the prescription opiates in the world? My numbers are wrong but it's something just as skewed.
He may just be a new school doc. They are changing training to stem the flow of opiate scrips. They were over prescribed. Now we've done a classic OVER correction. The toothpaste can't be put in the tube. If my dad had a back injury he ain't some guy you are going to teach yoga to at 70+ years old. He needs meds.
Big Pharm has tried to get people off too. But with NEW meds. Mainly Cox-2 meds. These have shite tons of side effects Vioxx being the worst. To only perform marginally better than a high dose NSAID like Motrin 800.
Problems with opiates are that they just fricking work. It HELPS pain. But they are absolutely addictive. Extra work and diligence in prescribing was needed. Not the near prohibition of them.
The elderly are doubly fricked. Darvocet used to be the med of choice for little old ladies. Well it got black boxed for killing people after decades. Codeine (Tylenol #3) does make many people puke. So if you are that person you are stuck. Tramadol I feel they will go after next. Has more of a sedative or hypnotic effect. It will soon get regulated.
Opium to Laudenum to Morphine to Demerol to Dilaudid have all been used then souped up because they work. But their simplicity comes with a price. Addiction and dependence. Nobody's kidneys are gonna fail for taking the right amount of an opiate. Their arse is not gonna start bleeding or their gums.
Pick your poison I guess.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:00 pm to AjaxFury
quote:
quote:
Fibromyalgia
Do you know what this word means? I bet you don't.
Fibromyalgia is absolutely an over used diagnosis. How is it diagnosed? Or is it just a catch all? Gotta call it something. I've seen many a crazy woman with Fibromyalgia diagnosis.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:13 pm to TigrrrDad
Hopeful Doc needs to do more pain management classes.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:14 pm to AUCE05
I've been researching the paleo diet and whole 30. its good to see someone getting relief as I've been reluctant to try it.
As for as pain goes... I have multiple spine issues and just ran tests for RA and other autoimmune diseases. I've tried everything my spine doctor has recommended and I'm progressively getting worse. in the last 10 years, I've had over 20 epidural steroid shots, 6 rhizodomy procedures, many rounds of physical therapy, gels, tens units, and more meds than i care to recall.
My pain is getting worse and my doctor doesn't seem to care anymore so I'm looking into alternatives. It sucks being on norco almost all the time but most days i cant function without it.
I'd love to try cannabis oil
As for as pain goes... I have multiple spine issues and just ran tests for RA and other autoimmune diseases. I've tried everything my spine doctor has recommended and I'm progressively getting worse. in the last 10 years, I've had over 20 epidural steroid shots, 6 rhizodomy procedures, many rounds of physical therapy, gels, tens units, and more meds than i care to recall.
My pain is getting worse and my doctor doesn't seem to care anymore so I'm looking into alternatives. It sucks being on norco almost all the time but most days i cant function without it.
I'd love to try cannabis oil
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:18 pm to CaliforniaTiger
This just proves that doctors don't know anything. They're just government yes men
The elites have the CIA put fluoride in the water to cause arthritis in an attempt to destroy our families and communities via the opioid epidemic. I used to have chronic pain until I heard Alex Jones say "you think the government puts fluoride in the water because they give a shite about your teeth?" Right away I bought a water filter and I've been pain free ever since
The elites have the CIA put fluoride in the water to cause arthritis in an attempt to destroy our families and communities via the opioid epidemic. I used to have chronic pain until I heard Alex Jones say "you think the government puts fluoride in the water because they give a shite about your teeth?" Right away I bought a water filter and I've been pain free ever since
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:22 pm to LSU alum wannabe
There is no doubt that opiates are overprescribed by doctors who are in pain management for the cash and who don't do their due diligence in determining a patient's medical/pain history.
This is where he lost me:
Drastically reducing someone's chronic pain doesn't improve their function? Fascinating. A person's function at an 8 on the pain scale doesn't improve when it's a 3 on the pain scale?
Regulation overruling common sense is, in my mind, "an example of everything that is wrong with the medical profession". Drug seekers will always seek drugs, be it opiates or other alternatives. But the percentage of legitimate chronic pain sufferers who become addicted (as opposed to physically dependent - and most people don't understand the difference) is drastically overstated.
This is where he lost me:
quote:
There is no real evidence showing that opiates improve their function and are associated with a lot of potential harms.
Drastically reducing someone's chronic pain doesn't improve their function? Fascinating. A person's function at an 8 on the pain scale doesn't improve when it's a 3 on the pain scale?
Regulation overruling common sense is, in my mind, "an example of everything that is wrong with the medical profession". Drug seekers will always seek drugs, be it opiates or other alternatives. But the percentage of legitimate chronic pain sufferers who become addicted (as opposed to physically dependent - and most people don't understand the difference) is drastically overstated.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:32 pm to el Gaucho
You post woke stuff in here and all you get is that fluoride stare and those fluoride downvotes
Posted on 4/30/17 at 1:44 pm to LSU Wayne
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what do legitimate chronic pain sufferers do to deal with their conditions?
Well for one I never go to the ER looking for narcotics. I politely request totadol/keterolac because I cant stand the pain and don't have time for the dr to play the "is she drug seeking" game. I'm not! Please give me my toradol or do me a favor and shoot me, the pain is that bad.
Even at that, some ahole DRs get indignant and tell me not to tell them what to do. Geez i am not telling them what to do, I am telling them what work well for me that isn't a narcotic. hell if they could give me a shot to numb the entire area, I'd be so thankful for that. I just want the pain to stop.
I never have a problem at the small rural hospital I go to because they know in all my years there that I have never requested narcotics for my kidney stone, migraines, broken foot,severe chest pains etc. They happily give me toradol and know I am not drug-seeking.
So I "live" my life in pain. i can no longer work because when the pain gets too bad I pass out. I should not be driving because of this. I get no disability check or help, i pay cash for my dr and meds and only have one doctor.
Thanks to my "Ginger Gene" not all pain-meds work for me anyway and i need double or triple the amount to get the slightest relief. I even woke up when i was under anesthesia having kidney surgery. There are no words t describe the pain of being cut open like that. i still have nightmares
I live a life in severe pain but luckily it won't last forever. The way things are going, I have about 5 years of life left.
So thanks junkies and paranoid docs who make my life a daily living hell.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 1:52 pm to gingerkittie
i know what you mean. living life in severe chronic pain is a nightmare!its so much harder to get pain meds now. at my last appointment, my doctor was offended his last procedure on me didnt help and tried to deny me meds. he told me I'm probably addicted and should try to stop. he can go frick himself. i need a new doctor
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:10 pm to LSU Wayne
Max out the nortryptylines/amytriptilines, gabapentin/lyrica, cymbalta. And obviously any intervention that could be precipitating the pain (epidural steroid injection, ablation, spinal cord stimulator, baclofen or tizanidine if from spasticity). After that, use opioids sparingly if possible.
Doctors (legit docs, not pill mills) got fricked when pain went from "the 5th vital sign/pain level is whatever the patient says it is/you have to treat it" to "oh no, everyone is ODing and on heroin, don't prescribe opioids".
Doctors (legit docs, not pill mills) got fricked when pain went from "the 5th vital sign/pain level is whatever the patient says it is/you have to treat it" to "oh no, everyone is ODing and on heroin, don't prescribe opioids".
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:11 pm to wasteland
quote:
i know what you mean. living life in severe chronic pain is a nightmare!its so much harder to get pain meds now. at my last appointment, my doctor was offended his last procedure on me didnt help and tried to deny me meds. he told me I'm probably addicted and should try to stop. he can go frick himself. i need a new doctor
This is another facet of it. The only legitimate pain management MDs left are anesthesiologists for the most part and they are pressured.
A. To make money by performing procedures. Nerve blocks and steroid injections.
B. To stop prescribing narcotics.
Gone are the days of pain docs who weren't performing procedures. The vast majority of them were pill mills. And they needed fo go, but I believe there is a place for docs who manage these patients and do not do procedures. They suggest and refer. But for the most part they need to responsibly manage these patients. I believe this can happen with the laws that are in place now.
Docs out there and other prescribers. They made Vicodin a triplicate and now you all have to carry a triplicate pad and are watching it more closely but?
A. Is there a number? Is there a number that is too much? They're watching but with no guidelines given I assume you can write what you want as long as there is no outright fraud? I.e. Not seeing patients but billing for exams.
B. Does the hassle of dealing with pain management patients make them so unattractive that they are not worth your time unless you are working the system?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:12 pm to gingerkittie
quote:meh, wnhi
Thanks to my "Ginger Gene"
quote:well, I take that back
I have about 5 years of life left.
Don't you have a solid trust fund?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:16 pm to Ric Flair
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Doctors (legit docs, not pill mills) got fricked when pain went from "the 5th vital sign/pain level is whatever the patient says it is/you have to treat it" to "oh no, everyone is ODing and on heroin, don't prescribe opioids".
It still happens. There are core measures in place for bone fractures in the ER. You are expected to annihilate these people with something IV or PO within an hour, I believe. Then upon discharge that same patient is sent home on Tramadol or T#3?
It's madness. If you broke your tib/fib, you earned a few Norco no?
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