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Legit chronic pain people

Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:43 pm
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4365 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:43 pm
All of the talk of over prescribing made me wonder with all of the focus on the opioid epidemic, what do legitimate chronic pain sufferers do to deal with their conditions?

I mean people with true 24/7, debilitating, and life altering chronic pain. I can imagine they immediately get thrown into the category with all of the other drug seekers, abusers, etc despite having medical proof that warrants aggressive treatment.

I just feel bad knowing that the pain pill seeking stigma has to be adversely impacting people who truly need this sort of treatment to deal with some really awful conditions.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117720 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:46 pm to
Miller lite
Ibuprofen
Weed
Little whiskey
Posted by Bushmaster
19th Hole
Member since Oct 2008
39627 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:47 pm to
Preach
Posted by MasCervezas
Ocean Springs
Member since Jul 2013
7958 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:51 pm to
Junkies just frick it up for everyone.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

I mean people with true 24/7, debilitating, and life altering chronic pain.



There is no real evidence showing that opiates improve their function and are associated with a lot of potential harms.

There are a number of other therapies. Pain is a symptom, the cause should be treated. Opiates should be reserved for cancer and acute pain (sparingly).


That said, I continue to prescribe and wean a lot of people's pain meds, but the goal is not to continue a therapy that has harms and no benefit.
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:53 pm to
A lot of junkies get started because of chronic pain. it's not really a clean distinction.

i got started because of a back injury that will leave me w/ nerve pain for the rest of my life.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98190 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:55 pm to
My dad has severe pain from spinal arthritis and degenerative disc disease. They gave him a prescription for hydrocodone, which he has never filled, and Tramadol, which he used once in a while but has stopped entirely. He gets by most days on aspirin and an anti inflammatories.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:57 pm to
Just ignore it. Works most of the time.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83938 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:58 pm to
Do I what I do. Ibuprofen and man up.
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4365 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:00 pm to
So what medicine and/or therapy would you prescribe for a very complex connective tissue disorder, where corrective surgery has actually caused permanent and unfixable damage and serious chronic pain? In this person's case the only PT that has been advised is aquatic walking as anything more will further damage major joints.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68464 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:01 pm to
It can suck

But I never needed prescriptions

If it got too bad I always found some extra mobility work to do for my hips and work on muscle imbalances in lower back and such
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17718 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:01 pm to
You won't die from pain
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68464 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:08 pm to
What ct disorder is this?
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

You won't die from pain


But your body eventually won't cooperate if the trauma is bad enough & pain signals will be sent electrically thru your neural pathways interfering with cognitive abilities no matter how tough you are.

If the US would switch back to cannabis for arthritic conditions, fibromyalgia, etc w/ SMALL doses of opiates for occassional breakthrough pain, the "epidemic" would be reduced drastically b/c there would be no physical dependency
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17718 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:11 pm to
Which strain of cannabis? What dose
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4365 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:12 pm to
A severe case of Ehlers Danlos Syndrome. Even this guy indicated the damage that's been done is beyond the scope of what he is able to treat.
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

Which strain of cannabis? What dose


Indica.
Dose varies depending on tolerance,
Would adjust depending on body chemistry similar to the way they adjust opiate types-

Trial/error, & there would be no risk of O.D
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27004 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

ou won't die from pain




There are things worse than death.

So many things caused this. As an ER nurse I fricking LOVE telling drug seekers to frick off "we don't have Dilaudid". But I also hand over a lot of Motrin scrips for people I feel could use a few norco. Fractures, shingles, burns, OBVIOUS dental abscesses, kidney stones? These folks used to get norco. Now lucky to get a Tramadol.

Chronic pain is a whole different animal. Hardcore to just cut these people off. Yes there is an opiate epidemic, but there are people out there with legit pain, and opium has been used for a century or three. Side effects? Can't shite, get addicted, and if abused you may kill yourself with an OD. But by and large the med does it job of stopping pain.

You can see both sides.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:18 pm to
I started having arthritis in college. Literally have hurt my entire adult life. Diet has helped as much as meds have. Still sucks, and I know I will probably be disabled about the time I retire.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15639 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:19 pm to
It's not that damn hard to ween yourself off painkillers over time. Some people just don't have self control.

They aren't for chronic pain and the doctors need to quit prescribing them for such.

One of these days our government will wake up and do what's right for the people. We need more research on cannibis for medicinal purposes.
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