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re: Legit chronic pain people

Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:18 pm to
And doctor's bonuses are often based on Patient satisfaction surveys. Which further complicate the issue.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27018 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:20 pm to
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doctor's bonuses are often based on Patient satisfaction surveys. Which further complicate the issue.




And I believe I heard this is coming to the clinic setting as well? Is this true?

Sort of an HCAPS for the clinics and offices?
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:20 pm to
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he can go frick himself


Tell him i said he can go frick himself too! i think ALL doctors should have to have a semester of severe pain (kidney stone, untreated broken bone, endometriosis, etc) so that they can better empathize with their patients.

Maybe then they wouldn't give that BS line " You are not in pain, you are just experiencing a bit of discomfort". Discomfort, my arse!!! The word is fricking pain.

P.S. I get fired u thinking about people who are genuinely suffering but cant get relief because of fricking junkies who abuse the system.

Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:23 pm to
I once broke two ribs two joints and shattered tailbone and left the hospital with Motrin800

I was pissed
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27018 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:28 pm to
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once broke two ribs two joints and shattered tailbone and left the hospital with Motrin800



I thought this was gonna be the "John Wayne reply"

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was pissed



As you should be.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13680 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:28 pm to
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I once broke two ribs two joints and shattered tailbone and left the hospital with Motrin800


Yeah. You would think they'd give you at least 20 norco.

You could have done what I think is an additional Waddell's sign, and claimed an allergy to NSAIDS and Tylenol.
Posted by 420centraltime
Gump nation
Member since Feb 2013
959 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:39 pm to
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It's not that damn hard to ween yourself off painkillers over time. Some people just don't have self control.

They aren't for chronic pain and the doctors need to quit prescribing them for such.

One of these days our government will wake up and do what's right for the people. We need more research on cannibis for medicinal purposes.




Shut the frick up. You obviously have never experienced the bowels of hell opiate withdraw will drag you through. fricking ignorant idiot.
Posted by 420centraltime
Gump nation
Member since Feb 2013
959 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:43 pm to
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So many things caused this. As an ER nurse I fricking LOVE telling drug seekers to frick off "we don't have Dilaudid". But I also hand over a lot of Motrin scrips for people I feel could use a few norco. Fractures, shingles, burns, OBVIOUS dental abscesses, kidney stones? These folks used to get norco. Now lucky to get a Tramadol.


What hospital is this? So I can make a mental note of never going to such a shitty facility. I had a complete fracture in my first, second, and a partial fracture in my third metatarsal and I was giving 15 Norco 7.5's. If they had handed me a script for Motrin I would've ended up with a 4th broken bone for drop kicking the doctor.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:55 pm to
Everyone lives with pain. Some just live with it better than others.
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3264 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:01 pm to
Doctors should really have no power in what a person takes only as a consultant. After that voluntary consultation an adult person should be able to go down to walmart and buy whatever they wish ( prescription drugs would get real cheap real fast) if we lose a few junkies so be it, freedom has downsides.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13680 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:04 pm to
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And I believe I heard this is coming to the clinic setting as well? Is this true? Sort of an HCAPS for the clinics and offices?


Depends on what healthcare system you're practicing in. Most large ones track patient satisfaction with surveys (like Press-Ganey). So if you tell an obvious pain seeking patient that you're going to send them to physical therapy and not give meds, it obviously hurts your scores.

This isn't the same as decreased reimbursement to the hospital/clinic (like a "quality measure"/readmission rate within 30 days for inpatient), i.e. Lowered Medicare reimbursement rates, which is What I think you are talking about.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:19 pm to
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Doctors should really have no power in what a person takes only as a consultant. After that voluntary consultation an adult person should be able to go down to walmart and buy whatever they wish ( prescription drugs would get real cheap real fast)

I'll agree to that, provided those same people are forbidden from coming to the hospital for ODs, side effects, or drug-related accidents/traumas.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13680 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:22 pm to
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I'll agree to that, provided those same people are forbidden from coming to the hospital for ODs, side effects, or drug-related accidents/traumas.


I'm ok with that for pain meds, but not antibiotics. And add the stipulation that you can't sue the pharmacists/doctors/clinic/hospital.
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3264 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:25 pm to
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I'll agree to that, provided those same people are forbidden from coming to the hospital for ODs, side effects, or drug-related accidents/traumas.


Even if they are admited, would it really be an increase in what it is now, the savings from lowered drug costs and the pain clinic scams would cover this.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Gatorsfan1116
Member since May 2016
62 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:37 pm to
I had the same problem, lumbar spinal stenosis, herniation at the L-4 L-5 vertebrae, arthritis etc. Suffered for 6 years from the shite. Did all the physical therapy, epidural steroid injections, radio frequency ablation therapy, over a 6 year period probably had at least 150 injections ranging from Dilaudid,Decudrone,Toridol, Noraflex, not to mention all the Vicodin and Percocet,Flexeril. This past March 16 I went to the Laser Spine Institute in Tampa Florida. Had a "hemilaminectomy" surgery performed by Dr Reginald Davis, going on the 7th week of recovery and I feel like a brand new man!
Posted by rockford177
Virginia
Member since Feb 2008
544 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 4:29 pm to
No it will not increase BP
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71366 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 4:35 pm to
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Feds cracking down on pain killers while denying alternate forms of relief


Agree. It's downright barbaric.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71366 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 4:37 pm to
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P.S. I get fired u thinking about people who are genuinely suffering but cant get relief because of fricking junkies who abuse the system.


Why not just let Darwin take its course in those cases, and legit cases can have relief?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:44 pm to
This is what I'm looking for. There are a few dr's in BR that perform the same procedure. I'd rather not travel too far because I have a 3 year old and a business to run but if I don't find someone around here to do it soon, I'll do what I have to. Can't live like this much longer.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:45 pm to
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Why not just let Darwin take its course in those cases, and legit cases can have relief?

agreed. since when is it the government's job to protect people from themselves?
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