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re: Define Success for Will Wade's Tigers Next Season
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:28 am to LSUSoulja08
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:28 am to LSUSoulja08
For me, simply seeing a plan. That alone will allow us to beat a couple teams we shouldn't. Players we get in will show us where the bar is set and help dictate how good we can be.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:29 am to wheelz007
If that's all you guys expect from him you're going to in for a pleasant surprise. We could've hire a Jr. High coach to meet yals expectations Wade was brought here to win and he will. Jones won 19 his first year with nothing Wade can surpass that.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 8:30 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:30 am to LSUSoulja08
I just want the team to look like they know how to play basketball. If anyone has watched any of the tourney so far, its terribly obvious how poorly we were coached, and quite frankly, how little talent the team has.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:43 am to LSUSoulja08
With the talent that is already here, and possible 4 top100 recruits, I think a tournament appearance is very possible. I don't think it's wrong to have those expectations. The talent I there they just lacked fundamentals basketball IQ, and defense which can all be coached.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:46 am to LSUSoulja08
This really is the perfect situation for him. Expectations are at rock bottom, so he can take his time and rebuild the program the way he wants.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:46 am to LSUSoulja08
A team that gives effort on the defensive end of the floor. And, I'd like to see him implement an offensive system....something I haven't seen in a while. Always have to recruit. Johnny Jones was bad. Real bad. Trent Johnson was lazy. Time to change attitude.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 8:48 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:49 am to Superbonics
Its going to take time to change this culture.
Jones has this program and players not giving effort, being complacent on the court, etc. The attitude is all wrong and it was palpable this year.
Installing a new system doesn't fix that. Wade is a high energy guy that will bench players for not giving 100%. He's said it several times in interviews.
I hope he gets a few solid players in this class that he can mold his way. He might have to release some guys on the current roster if that's what it takes to change culture.
from article about VCU transition with him:
Jones has this program and players not giving effort, being complacent on the court, etc. The attitude is all wrong and it was palpable this year.
Installing a new system doesn't fix that. Wade is a high energy guy that will bench players for not giving 100%. He's said it several times in interviews.
I hope he gets a few solid players in this class that he can mold his way. He might have to release some guys on the current roster if that's what it takes to change culture.
from article about VCU transition with him:
quote:
Junior forward Mo Alie-Cox, a fan favorite, says the transition for the players was difficult at first, mostly because of an increased emphasis on strength and conditioning and overall organization.
“We all have schedules now that we get on Sundays, so nobody can have an excuse,” Alie-Cox says, adding that different players adjusted at different speeds. “We didn’t have a lot of real organization like that under Coach Smart. [Wade] is holding us more accountable, being more punctual, stuff like that.”
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:04 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:54 am to TheCaterpillar
The SEC proved this year that they are much better than anyone nationally gave them credit for. We have talent on the team. It's not out of the question to expect the team to contend in the SEC. A huge part of our failure was purely on coaching. Wade brings youth and fresh air to the program, and that alone is good for 6-7 more wins. Auburn and Ole Miss will only be better. Bama will only be better. LSU will only be better. SECW is going to be very tough next year.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:56 am to Big EZ Tiger
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Using 50% of his timeouts, blinking every minute or so, appearing to coach during the game and not losing by 25 points to losing teams = I'm content.
i chortled
the bar is so HIGH here!
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:22 am to WhoDatTigahsTampa
quote:
It's not out of the question to expect the team to contend in the SEC.
Next year, yes it kind of is. We have UK and UF wayyyy ahead of us.
This is a cultural and talent rebuild. He is going to level it and start from the ground up.
We need to give this guy our patience.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:37 am to Madking
quote:Jones inherited a team that won 18 the year before and had actually received decent coaching. This team just finished a 10 win season and has been coached by Jones. Sorry if the expectations aren't going to be sky high for a team needing a culture change.
If that's all you guys expect from him you're going to in for a pleasant surprise. We could've hire a Jr. High coach to meet yals expectations Wade was brought here to win and he will. Jones won 19 his first year with nothing Wade can surpass that
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:54 am to OneMoreTime
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Jones inherited a team that won 18 the year before and had actually received decent coaching.
True, but the team Jones inherited was not the team that finished the 11-12 season. Jones' first team lost two of his top 3 scorers from the previous year (Hamilton and Turner), plus some post players Storm Warren and Malcom White. He basically had 2 Sophomores (Hickey & JOBIII) and a junior back (Stringer) with very little around them. He actually did a pretty good job of piecing things together by getting Coleman and Carmouche late in the game.
Assuming everyone stays, Wade will have an All-SEC caliber player in Blakeney. Two 2nd year guys that showed some promise this season (Mays and Reath) and a super athletic Jr. who just simply hasn't been coached (Sampson). The team won't be all that "young" either. Blakeney and Sampson will be Juniors. Patterson is a Sr. as is Epps. Simms and Mays will have had a year of extensive playing time under their belts. Reath and Jenkins have been playing a while (just not at the D-1 level).
SEC champs? No. But the cupboard shouldn't be completely bare. I don't defend Jones much, but (unless there is big time attrition from this years team) he was left with very little when he started at LSU
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:00 am to 0
nvm
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:02 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:00 am to Alt26
I agree. There are some holes in the roster and they need some coaching, but LSU's roster is not nearly as bad as the record would indicate.
If Wade could land a solid JUCO or graduate transfer post player to start immediately along with Reath, and there is not mass attrition, this team could be a solid NIT and maybe NCAA bubble team next year.
If Wade could land a solid JUCO or graduate transfer post player to start immediately along with Reath, and there is not mass attrition, this team could be a solid NIT and maybe NCAA bubble team next year.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:04 am to Alt26
I'm really interested what he can do with Epps and Robinson. Both have immense promise, but just haven't really done anything yet. Epps is an athletic 6'10 and those guys are pretty rare. Robinson's size is just freakish. Those two combined with Reath should give us one of the top frontcourts in the conference. Maybe I'm missing something, but I really expect one of them or both to finally burst out next year..
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:06 am to TXGunslinger10
I think the 6 year deal is enough to show you where this program is at.
He needs post players bad!
Guard play might be decent enough to sustain something.
NIT will be hard to make with this roster.
He needs post players bad!
Guard play might be decent enough to sustain something.
NIT will be hard to make with this roster.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:07 am to LSUSoulja08
Jones is leaving Wade with very little talent. Can't really predict 2017. However, 2018 18 wins and possible NIT birth.
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