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Why is there so much hate for Alleva?
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:54 pm
What exactly has he done that's so bad? I agree he made the wrong call on Jones, but I think it's agreed the old crew that still has a lot of pull made that hire.
He was put in an odd position by Miles. Miles always won just enough to avoid his seat from burning. He is the winningest coach in LSU history. He was given one more chance to address the offense. He didn't. He was fired. I thought he was incompetent for years.
He put us in a position to hire whoever we wanted. Fisher was never coming here. We target Herman. Just so happens Texas opens up. He predictably chooses UT. O has a decent run. There wasn't much else out there.
He gives him around 4 million per year. Puts protections in the contract. Gives him a chance, but he has an out of it doesn't work out. And O is probably the best fit for this job given his background. Very high upside. Seems low risk. Not much else out there. Not a terrible idea to me. O has pushed all the right buttons so far.
Baseball is on autopilot.
I don't care about other sports. So, what has he done wrong?
He fired Miles. Good job.
Coach O is TBD.
Jones was a bad hire, but it was made in a different manner.
Baseball = autopilot
ETA: Johnson didn't work out but he was a pretty good hire on face value. The reaction was overwhelmingly positive. I don't fault him as much for hiring a solid coach who doesn't work out. To me, if we hired Coach K, and we never had a winning record and fired him, it was still a good hire.
He was put in an odd position by Miles. Miles always won just enough to avoid his seat from burning. He is the winningest coach in LSU history. He was given one more chance to address the offense. He didn't. He was fired. I thought he was incompetent for years.
He put us in a position to hire whoever we wanted. Fisher was never coming here. We target Herman. Just so happens Texas opens up. He predictably chooses UT. O has a decent run. There wasn't much else out there.
He gives him around 4 million per year. Puts protections in the contract. Gives him a chance, but he has an out of it doesn't work out. And O is probably the best fit for this job given his background. Very high upside. Seems low risk. Not much else out there. Not a terrible idea to me. O has pushed all the right buttons so far.
Baseball is on autopilot.
I don't care about other sports. So, what has he done wrong?
He fired Miles. Good job.
Coach O is TBD.
Jones was a bad hire, but it was made in a different manner.
Baseball = autopilot
ETA: Johnson didn't work out but he was a pretty good hire on face value. The reaction was overwhelmingly positive. I don't fault him as much for hiring a solid coach who doesn't work out. To me, if we hired Coach K, and we never had a winning record and fired him, it was still a good hire.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 10:16 pm
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:56 pm to tuptiger
He handled the Duke situation awfully
He forced their coach to resign or be fired over false allegations because he caves to media pressure
He forced their coach to resign or be fired over false allegations because he caves to media pressure
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:56 pm to tuptiger
You deserve what's coming
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:59 pm to beauchristopher
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He handled the Duke situation awfully
He forced their coach to resign or be fired over false allegations because he caves to media pressure
How is this relevant to the job he's done at LSU?
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:59 pm to tuptiger
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I don't care about other sports. So, what has he done wrong?
All sports collectively matter also, LSU athletic is more than just football and baseball
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He fired Miles. Good job.
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Coach O is TBD
I hope coach O is successful but the whole search was a giant mess, with little to no effort it seemed after having a jump start to start looking
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Jones was a bad hire, but it was made in a different manner.
What?
He sucks at his job and holds no one accountable
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:01 pm to Tigerbait357
He fired Miles. That's holding someone accountable.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:02 pm to tuptiger
You give him credit for firing les? It was a disaster the way he handled the whole Les thing
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:02 pm to tuptiger
Well he has driven Men's Basketball into the gutter with 2 different coaching hires
Women's basketball isn't anywhere near what it used to be.
All the bullshite surrounding Les in 2015. No actual coaching search this year.
O isn't a low risk candidate. he was a terrible coach at Ole Miss. I think he is learned from his mistakes and Aranda and Canada are great Coordinators.
Women's basketball isn't anywhere near what it used to be.
All the bullshite surrounding Les in 2015. No actual coaching search this year.
O isn't a low risk candidate. he was a terrible coach at Ole Miss. I think he is learned from his mistakes and Aranda and Canada are great Coordinators.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:03 pm to tuptiger
He essentially fired him (for fricks sake they carried his arse off the field) rehired them and fired him again the next year. Great AD work
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:03 pm to tuptiger
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He put us in a position to hire whoever we wanted. Fisher was never coming here. We target Herman. Just so happens Texas opens up. He predictably chooses UT. O has a decent run. There wasn't much else out there.
My issue with this is that he let Herman play him like a bitch then he took his ball and ran home like a titty baby. If you fired Miles to get out in front of everyone else and determined that Herman was your guy you don't run when he wants to listen to Texas. You go to Houston and get in his face and tell him your not leaving because ya"ll had a handshake deal and your not letting him walk away. Now as to the rush to hire BeBe. He wasn't going anywhere he knew you were looking at other options and still wanted to job. So why rush it? Talk to more ppl and interview them. maybe you do come back to O, but you never explored these other options and that is what pissed me off.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:03 pm to tuptiger
Hired Jones
Hired Orgeron
fricked up the sacking of Miles, and then fricked up the 'search' for his replacement.
Hired Orgeron
fricked up the sacking of Miles, and then fricked up the 'search' for his replacement.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:05 pm to tuptiger
Joe Alleva is a duchebag! Why would LSU hire that jackass after Duke!
The man is a joke and need to be fired!!!
The man is a joke and need to be fired!!!
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:05 pm to tuptiger
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How is this relevant to the job he's done at LSU?
It's relevant because he wasn't even qualified for the job to begin with.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:07 pm to tuptiger
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He fired Miles. Good job.
A year too late, only to hire someone that was already on the staff.
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Jones was a bad hire, but it was made in a different manner.
What about Johnson before him?
Alleva's best hire was Torina, and he initially didn't even hire her.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:07 pm to tuptiger
It could help things a little if Alleva makes a rare decent hire to replace Johnny Jones.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:09 pm to Geaux23
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He essentially fired him (for fricks sake they carried his arse off the field) rehired them and fired him again the next year. Great AD work
On top of wasting this entire past season, with all the players that came back. Complete disappointment
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:13 pm to tuptiger
quote:Based on what? The fact that it was a shite hire? Both Brown and Temple had been further from the program for a while before Jones was hired. The Ed O hire basically proves that Alleva is capable of fricking up that badly.
I think it's agreed the old crew that still has a lot of pull made that hire
quote:Miles gave Joe Alleva a gift when he interviewed with Arkansas. All Joe had to do was call his bluff and Miles would have turned Arkansas down and could have been easily removed after yet another offensive disaster. Instead that fricktard extended him too long to fire him.
He was put in an odd position by Miles.
quote:And then he hired a D-line coach who as head coach literally set records for futility at fricking Ole Miss.
He put us in a position to hire whoever we wanted.
quote:He could have paid him 2 million or less.
He gives him around 4 million per year.
quote:Oh my god, are you retarded?
And O is probably the best fit for this job given his background
quote:On autopilot way below championship level.
Baseball is on autopilot.
quote:You should because that's the only place Joe lucked into a winner.
I don't care about other sports
quote:Way too late. The program is nowhere near where it used to be.
He fired Miles.
quote:Keep your head in the sand.
Coach O is TBD.
quote:Bad is an understatement.
Jones was a bad hire
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:13 pm to SammyTiger
Trent Johnson was a pretty good hire on face value. I don't fault him for that one. Jones I agree with, but CT and Dale had a big say. Shaq and the old crew wanted Jones.
As for Miles, he won 9 games last year. He always won just enough. Sometimes I wanted us to win 2 games one year just to fire him. But he never did. Fan pressure mounts. Administration doesn't want him gone. Joe tells him to change. He doesnt. He gets fired. I'm fine with that order of events.
Fisher wasn't coming here. He put himself ahead in the Herman sweepstakes. UT opens up. Herman chooses UT.
O is low risk. We're not locked in for a long time. He's making 3.5 iirc. He's got a high upside. I'm ok with it. I didn't like a lot of the names floated around.
As for Miles, he won 9 games last year. He always won just enough. Sometimes I wanted us to win 2 games one year just to fire him. But he never did. Fan pressure mounts. Administration doesn't want him gone. Joe tells him to change. He doesnt. He gets fired. I'm fine with that order of events.
Fisher wasn't coming here. He put himself ahead in the Herman sweepstakes. UT opens up. Herman chooses UT.
O is low risk. We're not locked in for a long time. He's making 3.5 iirc. He's got a high upside. I'm ok with it. I didn't like a lot of the names floated around.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:17 pm to Broski
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Alleva's best hire was Torina, and he initially didn't even hire her.
Not to make a knock on Torina, but he completely lucked out. He had zero clue she would ever get us to this position. I mean we go from trying to hire a proven elite head coach from a major power 5 school to her.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:18 pm to tuptiger
Baseball is on auto pilot?
Seems like we lose to teams with less talent every year come tournament time.
How many went pro the last 2 years?
Seems like we lose to teams with less talent every year come tournament time.
How many went pro the last 2 years?
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