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GOTH? Are you?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:10 pm
First off, I never dressed in all black or wore black lipstick. In fact, the "goth" bands" I liked occurred to me much later in life. In my teenage years, the shallow city and the shallow clubs I grew up around MIGHT have played a KMFDM song or Front Line Assembly tune or two. NIN, Stabbing Westward, and the one remake from the band called Orgy -- it was them and a lot of hip hop by 1998-2000.
It's DARKWAVE, people and it can encompass the likes of Siouxie and the Banshees and NIN and KMFDM and Pigface and The Cure and The Revolting Cocks and The Smiths and I could go one and on. I also love Ministry, The Cult (early), KMFDM, Clan of Xymox, Fields of Nephilim...so many more.
What I want to leave here is a mundane love of a music that "I never dressed up for" nor hated anyone more/less in spite of. Pop, cold wave, shoe gaze, dark wave, dance, electro, Industrial...it's all a part.
WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS HOW THE POST-PUNK AND INDUSTRIAL MOVEMENT BECAME POPULAR IN THE STATES? BEFORE THE INTERNET?
It's DARKWAVE, people and it can encompass the likes of Siouxie and the Banshees and NIN and KMFDM and Pigface and The Cure and The Revolting Cocks and The Smiths and I could go one and on. I also love Ministry, The Cult (early), KMFDM, Clan of Xymox, Fields of Nephilim...so many more.
What I want to leave here is a mundane love of a music that "I never dressed up for" nor hated anyone more/less in spite of. Pop, cold wave, shoe gaze, dark wave, dance, electro, Industrial...it's all a part.
WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS HOW THE POST-PUNK AND INDUSTRIAL MOVEMENT BECAME POPULAR IN THE STATES? BEFORE THE INTERNET?
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 8:11 pm
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:50 pm to PiscesTiger
When I think of goth, I think of Type O Negative. I see it as completely different from industrial.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:47 pm to PiscesTiger
Definitely was never into the goth stuff. That had kinda spun itself out before I was a teen. I listened to some of the emo stuff of the time (Hawthorne Heights, My Chemical Romance, The Used), but never dressed like one. I never cared much for the industrial goth stuff.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:52 pm to PiscesTiger
In the 90's, a buddy of mine living in South Florida invited me to St. Petersburg to take in a bar concert of some wild band he knew about. We got to the club, and the line of freak show was down the block. We couldn't get in.
The band was Marylin Manson. I remember some guy walking by me, pointing out, "Dude has short hair."
The band was Marylin Manson. I remember some guy walking by me, pointing out, "Dude has short hair."
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:36 pm to PiscesTiger
I was really into all of that music but without the makeup and only black/dark clothes. I went to the Blue Crystal a good bit back in the mid to late eighties. Saw KMFDM at the new Orleans music hall with about 30 other people in the crowd. Still listen to old Goth and industrial type music 60% of the time.
How did it spread? First and foremost, college radio stations (WTUL) then, MTV's "120 Minutes" late night show if you had cable, magazines, word of mouth, songs played at the clubs, and seeing every live show possible, like NIN for $1 at Tipitinas or $12 for Jane's Addiction and Love and Rockets in Nov 1987. I don't recall the name "Goth" being used to describe it till later in the early nineties.
How did it spread? First and foremost, college radio stations (WTUL) then, MTV's "120 Minutes" late night show if you had cable, magazines, word of mouth, songs played at the clubs, and seeing every live show possible, like NIN for $1 at Tipitinas or $12 for Jane's Addiction and Love and Rockets in Nov 1987. I don't recall the name "Goth" being used to describe it till later in the early nineties.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:59 pm to PiscesTiger
because people back then used to be passionate and creative about finding new music.
Not that hard to figure out.
Not that hard to figure out.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:09 pm to PiscesTiger
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WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS HOW THE POST-PUNK AND INDUSTRIAL MOVEMENT BECAME POPULAR IN THE STATES? BEFORE THE INTERNET?
I know in Houston there was Record Rack and Numbers. Houston Press rag would always advertise local msuic venues so if you knew certain bands were at certain bars/clubs, you would have a pulse on it. But when Q93(before it went country) broadcasted live from Club 6400 on saturday nights, it really took off here. Then for us it was searching out record labels like Wax Trax Records or Mute Records.
But that was my experience.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:02 am to PiscesTiger
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WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS HOW THE POST-PUNK AND INDUSTRIAL MOVEMENT BECAME POPULAR IN THE STATES? BEFORE THE INTERNET?
I don't really know. Drugs and word of mouth, probably.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 5:25 pm to PiscesTiger
yeah.. KMFDM and the other german technotronic sounds were great for teenage angst.
But it was word of mouth in middle school..
First you would hear of Local bands like Acid Bath and Pantera.. then just venture around the music store asking questions of like sounding bands..
But it was word of mouth in middle school..
First you would hear of Local bands like Acid Bath and Pantera.. then just venture around the music store asking questions of like sounding bands..
Posted on 2/27/17 at 6:04 pm to PiscesTiger
I grew up in the 80's, and most of my knowledge was limited to the bigger named artists - The Smiths, The Cure, etc. There was an older girl in the neighborhood I was pretty infatuated with that listened to a lot of the lesser known ones. I'd listen to them with her when she'd humor me and let me hang around, but I don't remember any of them now. I do know she used to listen to the local college radio station all the time, so I assume that's where she discovered most of them And MTV 120 minutes. We used to watch that. We were just a bunch of white boy skater posers that could barely do an ollie that pretended we knew what The Sex Pistols were singing about.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:06 pm to PiscesTiger
Y'all all forgetting the grand daddies of Goth: Bauhaus
Posted on 2/28/17 at 3:46 pm to PiscesTiger
"Witch House" genres are the modern "GOTH". And I love them..
White Ring - Roses
Sidewalks and Skeletons - GOTH
CHAINLESS - Ancient Ruins
MR.KITTY - XIII
At one time I would consider Crystal Castles in this darker genre. Especially post chip tunes.
As someone who grew up after the popularity of these bands I looked at them as emo. They had a weak sound to all of them but IMO that genre just evolved into a darker sound.
White Ring - Roses
Sidewalks and Skeletons - GOTH
CHAINLESS - Ancient Ruins
MR.KITTY - XIII
At one time I would consider Crystal Castles in this darker genre. Especially post chip tunes.
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Siouxie and the Banshees and NIN and KMFDM and Pigface and The Cure and The Revolting Cocks and The Smiths and I could go one and on. I also love Ministry, The Cult (early), KMFDM, Clan of Xymox, Fields of Nephilim...so many more.
As someone who grew up after the popularity of these bands I looked at them as emo. They had a weak sound to all of them but IMO that genre just evolved into a darker sound.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 3:53 pm
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