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Mike Pence seething at Michael Flynn for lying to him about Russia

Posted on 2/11/17 at 2:48 am
Posted by iPadThai
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Posted on 2/11/17 at 2:48 am
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Mike Pence is not prone to winging it. A lawyer-by-training and cautious politician-by-habit, Pence was preparing for a series of interviews and wanted more information. So Pence, then the Vice President-elect, picked up his phone on Jan. 14 and called up the man who would have the suite of offices next to his in the West Wing.

Of incoming National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, Pence asked: What were people talking about when they mentioned Flynn’s conversations with Russia’s Ambassador to Washington? Did Flynn tell Sergey Kislyak that the Trump team would lift the sanctions that President Obama had just put into place, as some were reporting?

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Flynn told Pence there was nothing to these rumors. They were merely efforts to hurt the incoming President, Donald Trump, and they would die out. That satisfied Pence, who relayed that message to several news organizations on the weekend before the Trump team assumed power. Pence brushed off the questions as “bizarre rumors that have swirled around” Trump. “I can confirm those elements were not a part of that discussion,” Pence told CBS News’ Face the Nation.

Weeks later, Pence was starting to doubt that he fully understood the whole story, or that Flynn was completely forthcoming with facts. Now settling into his office on the western front of the West Wing, with Flynn a few steps away, he started asking his aides to double-check some of Flynn’s assessments. None of the answers left Pence with much confidence. Beyond his faith in God, Pence isn’t one to blindly trust.

By Thursday night, Pence knew for sure they had a problem. The Washington Post, based on interviews with nine officials, confirmed Flynn had in fact implied to the Russian Ambassador that the Trump Administration would take a kinder view of Moscow than did President Obama and economic penalties could be eased. Several officials questioned the legality of the communication, seeming to circumvent the still-in-power Obama Administration which had imposed the sanctions in response to Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections.

Flynn initially denied that he had made those overtures, both to reporters and to White House colleagues. Later, an aide said Flynn did not recall making them, seeming to soften the absolute denial. Some inside the White House were livid. The Flynn statements that they were merely exchanging Christmas greetings seemed a bit flimsy now.

For a White House so bent on discrediting the media, they were facing a problem at home. These errors haunt Administrations, and there seemed to be no consequences.

Pence was stewing silently, according to two White House officials who demanded anonymity in order to discuss the sensitive internal matter. One of those officials said Pence had ordered an informal investigation into how and why Flynn had misled the Vice President and, through him, the country. Had Pence been better informed, he could have dodged the questions or obfuscated, rather than put his credibility on the line for an aide who has dragged controversy at his side for a long while. Pence’s reputation as a straight shooter stood to be dinged, so Pence told his aides to spread far and wide that Flynn was responsible for not telling the Vice President the truth.

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Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/11/17 at 2:57 am to
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Flynn was responsible for not telling the Vice President the truth


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Flynn told Pence there was nothing to these rumors.


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Flynn initially denied that he had made those overtures, both to reporters and to White House colleagues. Later, an aide said Flynn did not recall making them, seeming to soften the absolute denial.


So what is the truth? I see a lot of implications but no evidence.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19140 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:01 am to
The truth is that Yahoo consistently spews anti-Trump propaganda.
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 3:05 am
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
108437 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:06 am to
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Pence was stewing silently, according to two White House officials who demanded anonymity in order to discuss the sensitive internal matter.


I realize this is how reporters get inside info, but I do not believe or at the very least surprised that Flynn would mislead Pence. Pence has the highest respect of Trump and has played a very big role since being named VP.

It's interesting how many stories like this are leaking by "anonymous" sources since Trump has taken office. Many times these rumors have proven to be untrue.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71577 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:06 am to
Yah hoo news.
Posted by DragginFly
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:16 am to
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. The Washington Post, based on interviews with nine officials
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Pence was stewing silently, according to two White House officials who demanded anonymity
Thats some real Woodward and Bernstein work right there, Bezos.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95011 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 4:47 am to
Yahoo?



Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 4:55 am to
Wait!!!!

A politician is upset with someone's dishonestly? if true, Pot meet mettle
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 4:56 am
Posted by boomertoomer
Member since Dec 2016
451 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:16 am to
yahoo is very biased and slanted toward the snowflake agenda
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:21 am to
Michael Flynnished
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
81007 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:23 am to
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Yahoo?


The fakest of the fakes
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
265 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:29 am to
Michael Flynn should have been Trump's VP selection. We knew Pence was an establishment Neocon that would favor NATO and Turkey over Russia, but the GOP still has to appease these Evangelicals to win southern states, and that is why Trump was basically forced to select Pence.

The south has always been a splinter in the side of the US. The people down there are gullible and the easiest to exploit and deceive. Always the first to jump on a bandwagon like the Iraq War bullshite during the Bush administration without questioning the ramifications.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136528 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:30 am to
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Michael Flynnished
So let's sum up who all is done, as good as fired, and banished forever from politics:
Steve Bannon
Kellyanne Conway
Reince Priebus
Mike Flynn
Steve Sessions
Betsy DeVos
Probably Rex Tillerson

. . . . . that about sum it up, Hugo?

Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:16 am to
Pence and Mattis fighting. Internal struggle with preibus. This administration is quickly coming off the rails.
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4530 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:16 am to
You folks can harp about Yahoo all you want. But Pence is a stable, dependable straight-shooter. Without Pence, it's doubtful Trump wins the election and without him Trump will never be able to work with Congress.

Flynn, on the other hand, is an absolute piece of shite. He's a maggot. He has not a bit of integrity, he's arrogant as can be and he's a liar.

Trump needs to get rid of this little punk ASAP. He will do nothing to help Trump and he's guaranteed to cause Trump big problems.
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
6432 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:19 am to
reads like a novel.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136528 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:24 am to
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Pence and Mattis fighting. Internal struggle with preibus. This administration is quickly coming off the rails.
Now it's even Pence and Mattis?

You hold that "this administration is quickly coming off the rails." It's like October all over again. Hugo dropped out after being asked the following question.

So FTR who all is done, as good as fired, and banished forever from politics in your opinion?

Mike Flynn
Maddog Mattis
Steve Bannon
Kellyanne Conway
Reince Priebus
Steve Sessions
Betsy DeVos
Probably Rex Tillerson

. . . . . that list about sum it up, GFaceKillah?

This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 7:26 am
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52300 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:26 am to
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GFaceKillah


You trying to convince yourself, or someone else?
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18670 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:32 am to
I don't know how much of that I believe, but the article actually makes me like Pence, so I secretly hope it's true
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27944 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:41 am to
Is anyone surprised? Reasonable and fact based people have been raising legitimate concerns about these guys from the beginning. The problem is that reasonable and fact based concerns have been attacked as leftist babble. The truth is that many of us care deeply about mundane things such as the operation of the government. The seeming conversion of Republicans into toadie shills provides cover for incompetence and corruption.
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