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re: Jorge Ramos no longer recognizes the USA

Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:16 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:16 am to
Immigration laws should be abolished. So should citizenship. People should be free to move to whichever country they wish.

We are all citizens of this planet.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61516 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:16 am to
frick this guy. Go back to Mexico if you don't like it. You're welcome for your economic privilege btw, dick. The US gave and gave to you for years and turning your back on it so quick makes it obvious you weren't here for the US, you were only here because Mexico sucked.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13519 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Jorge Ramos no longer recognizes the USA

Good.
Maybe he won't be able to find his way back.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27353 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:27 am to
quote:

They are being discriminated against merely because they were born in the wrong country.
No, they aren't being discriminated against because living in the USA is not a right.

We decide who can and cannot live here as this is our home. This idea that the world has a right to live in this country is infuriating.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:29 am to
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky

Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man

Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17411 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:36 am to
Well, no wonder Jorge Ramos is worried about his fellow Latinos being targeted. After all, people who look like him are constantly being harassed by white supremacists.

Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
6631 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:38 am to
quote:

A couple of days after the president signed an executive order announcing that a wall would be built along the Mexican border, he issued a directive that radically changes deportation priorities in this country. Now, anyone who “committed acts that constitute a chargeable criminal offense” may be deported, even if they were never convicted. Also, immigrants who have committed “fraud … before a government agency” are to be deported as well — which presumably applies to any noncitizen who has ever used a fake driver’s license or made up a Social Security number in order to work.


Sneaking across the border - illegal
Forging gov't documents - illegal
Stealing identities of citizens - illegal
Stealing names and SS #s from the dead - horribly immoral AND illegal

As long as he was able to prance around in the US, taking advantage of the rights granted to citizens with none of a citizen's responsibilities, everything was wonderful.

Hey, Jorge, the rulings, laws, legalities, etc., should apply to everyone. How about you and the illegals you champion obey them, like citizens are required to do. Enter the US legally and ASSIMILATE. It's a small price to pay and will all but eliminate the resentment now directed towards you and them.


Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Jorge Ramos no longer recognizes the USA


Thats because the United States of America was "fundamentally transformed" by a slimy anti American communist 8 years ago.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72422 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:16 am to
Don't you insult a John Lennon song like that!
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28130 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:38 am to
Ramos came here legally. He had a visa and followed the rules?

If he does not like it, he can always renounce his American citizenship and relocate back to Mexico City. No one is stopping him.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32689 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:39 am to
quote:

. The U.S. had a rich and storied history of accepting and supporting immigrants with open arms—until Trump arrived.


That jackass needs a history lesson quick.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:46 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:47 am to
Ya, I think the Irish and Chinese around the late 1800s might have something to say about that little claim
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:56 am to
Jorge is just an ethno-nationalist who looks out for the interests of so-called "Latinos".

He calls people "RACIST!" because he's projecting his own racism.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Jorge is just an ethno-nationalist who looks out for the interests of his bank account.



FIFY.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17411 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:11 am to
quote:

If he does not like it, he can always renounce his American citizenship and relocate back to Mexico City. No one is stopping him.
I don't mind him voicing his opinion as a a legal US citizen, if he were one.

What bothers me is that he - and tens of millions more naturalized citizens just like him - took an oath to, and I quote, "absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen", but still is a participating citizen in his home country: "But I’ve never ceased to be Mexican. I have two passports, and I vote in elections in both countries. I’m deeply proud of this privileged duality."

Jorge Ramos obtained his Consititutional rights as a citizen of the United States under false pretenses, deliberately perjuring himself in Federal court. He should be stripped of his passport and deported.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 11:12 am
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
22039 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:23 am to
quote:

I wonder if the founders would recognize it Or even the likes of Calvin Coolidge or Eisenhower


No they wouldn't.

They would say wtf is this income tax shite?
WTF is this Welfare shite?
WTF is this Social Security shite?

WTF do you mean I can't carry a weapon in Washington DC?

WTF Do you mean I can't own a slave? Oh never mind You properly amended the constitution to outlaw that. Carry on.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 11:26 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124723 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:24 am to
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If Reagan had crafted an arbitrary ban similar to Trump’s and included Mexico
or if we had crafted an arbitrary ban similar to Trump's and included South Africa or Canada, Elon Musk wouldn't be here either. There are reasons neither occurred. e.g., Canada, South Africa, and Mexico are not Syria.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 11:51 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:25 am to
Damnit you bastages are fast.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 11:26 am
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19515 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Also, immigrants who have committed “fraud … before a government agency” are to be deported as well — which presumably applies to any noncitizen who has ever used a fake driver’s license or made up a Social Security number in order to work.
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This seems to be the new talking point.

In their minds, it is perfectly acceptable for those illegally here to forge these documents.

Hopefully it bites these morons in the arse.

I wonder if they think it is ok for me to forge a new social security number so that I can get out of paying back student loans.
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