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re: Trump meeting with Le Pen right now
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:46 am to joshnorris14
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:46 am to joshnorris14
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Would you have ban bet on the US Elections? Because I did, and won
No, because I realised that Clinton was a terrible candidate, and the only possible person who could lose to Trump would be Clinton (and vice versa).
ETA:
FFS, most of you Trumpkins actually agree more with Fillon than Le Pen, but because Bannon likes Le Pen, you like Le Pen. It's madness.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:48 am
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:47 am to TN Bhoy
If Le Pen wins does the French government and media make a huge hoopla about the United States and Trump attempting to "influence" their election? That would be grand.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:49 am to TN Bhoy
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FFS, most of you Trumpkins actually agree more with Fillon than Le Pen, but because Bannon likes Le Pen, you like Le Pen. It's madness.
Le Pen is a more powerful symbol.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:54 am to joshnorris14
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Le Pen is a more powerful symbol.
But of what? If there is a better candidate for the US, why am I supposed to give a shite about some anti-globalist crusade more so than a leader aligned better with our interests?
What's the end game? I think the EU presents security concerns, and I get why Trump supporters want to curb America's globalist outlook. But why am I supposed to invest in the destruction of the EU?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:54 am to AlaTiger
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Are we against NATO too?
No. But the member countries not meeting the indirect spending 2% GDP criteria need to do so to remain members, at least, and we need to look at lowering our current $500 million (22.2%) direct funding input to NATO and forcing the member countries that receive the most benefit from our direct and indirect spending to provide more direct funding to NATO.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 11:05 am
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:56 am to Pettifogger
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What's the end game?
Killing the EU
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:57 am to TN Bhoy
quote:How so? Brexit is a valid recent example of the fallibility of polling firms. You don't agree?
Every single time some Trump supporter on here mentions Brexit, they lose all of their credibility.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:57 am to joshnorris14
Faites la France une fois de plus!
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:58 am to joshnorris14
quote:Again I will ask, how is it beneficial if the EU breaks apart?
What's the end game?
Killing the EU
No one has answered my question which I posted on the previous page.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:58 am to CAD703X
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Nous adorons les français, ne nous les gens?
Oui, oui, señor........
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:58 am to joshnorris14
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Killing the EU
I'm asking you seriously though, why?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:04 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Would you want your son to die in a war in defense of Turkey?
I'd rather that than having him/her die in the defense of the Emir of Kuwait.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:09 am to AlaTiger
AlaDramaQueen
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Are we against NATO too? I know we hate the UN, the EU, NAFTA, etc. What about NATO? Pretty much the whole post-WW2 order needs to go away, right? Trying to find out what the overall goal is here. Every nation for themselves and no alliances? No global order?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:11 am to DownSouthJukin
Yes, the money we spend to protect other NATO countries allows them to divert money that would be spent on defense, to the support of their socialist programs.
These are then used to criticize the US for not having these same socialist programs, which we can't afford because we are defending the world.
These are then used to criticize the US for not having these same socialist programs, which we can't afford because we are defending the world.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:15 am to AlaTiger
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Are we against NATO too?
If we get back to a North Atlantic Treaty where the countries actually fulfill their obligations and the US isn't the only party defending liberal western hegemony globally, I'd be in favor of it. A NATO where the US is just the world police and foots the bill for it to boot? We should all be opposed to that.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:25 am to Pettifogger
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I'm asking you seriously though, why?
My major qualm with the EU the self-destructive policy of importing Islam and it's future impact on Europe through relatively high birth rates and exponentially higher welfare usage rates.
The Nationalists in Europe are standing in the way of that
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:46 am to joshnorris14
quote:I agree this is an issue that Europe needs to change its policy on.
My major qualm with the EU the self-destructive policy of importing Islam and it's future impact on Europe
However, both France and the Netherlands have former colonies which are predominantly Muslim. They both had, prior to the formation of the EU, a policy of allowing almost unfettered immigration from their former Muslim colonies. A dissolution of the EU would not affect their own national policies.
So they would have to change their own national policies even if the EU were to dissolve in order to solve the problems you mentioned.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:53 am to joshnorris14
Here's Marion Le Pen, National Front MP, niece of Marine and granddaughter of Jean Marie. IWDHI.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:10 pm to SCLibertarian
IWHI all day.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:18 pm to LSURussian
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Again I will ask, how is it beneficial if the EU breaks apart?
Countries regain their sovereignty from un-elected bureaucrats and they can then act in their own best interests and do things that work best for them.
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