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re: Help Me Understand The Mindset Of A Social Justice Warrior

Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:55 pm to
Reason and accountability

From as good as it gets
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:55 pm to
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And if that doesn't convince you, number 17 DEFINITELY will. quote: 17. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color


That's true of me. My grandmother attributed that to being an uncouth, slob, male who spent too much time at the hunting camp with my grandpaw and uncles and whooped it out of me.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:56 pm to
I've tried but I can't.


Luckily idk anyone personally that's like this.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:57 pm to
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It proves white privilege is a fact


Define "proves" and "fact"
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:58 pm to
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So let me get this straight... You think my being white has more bearing on my credit worthiness than my ability to pay my bills on time?
Wow, way to reword everything.

If you are white, lenders will assume you are creditworthy. Typically, if you are not, they will assume there may be some issues.

These are facts. It doesn't bear on your credit worthiness, it bears on the appearance of your creditworthiness due to stereotyping by lenders.

You really cannot dispute this.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:58 pm to
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Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of fi nancial reliability."


What in the frick does this even mean?
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:58 pm to
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You really cannot dispute this.


if I'm black and have good credit will I be denied a loan?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32682 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:59 pm to
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If you are white, lenders will assume you are creditworthy. Typically, if you are not, they will assume there may be some issues.

These are facts


False
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:59 pm to
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Define "proves" and "fact"


A fact is something we know to be true.

Proof is evidence that we know supports the existence of a fact.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:00 pm to
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if I'm black and have good credit will I be denied a loan?



That's not the point! THE PERSON WILL THINK YOU WON'T BE, AND THAT CAUSES HARM. AND EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT THINK IT, THEY SUBCONSCIOUSLY THINK IT.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:00 pm to
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THE PERSON WILL THINK YOU WON'T BE, AND THAT CAUSES HARM. AND EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT THINK IT, THEY SUBCONSCIOUSLY THINK IT.


Oh ok, so they are assuming that I'm assuming that they aren't credit worthy... man my head hurts.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:01 pm to
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Help Me Understand The Mindset Of A Social Justice Warrior


That's an impossible ask. My theory is that to understand them you have to cut your penis off and that's not happening I'm guessing so here we are.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:01 pm to
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if I'm black and have good credit will I be denied a loan?
You are not following the logic.

If you are black and have good credit, you should get the loan. BUT, when you apply for the loan and your credit score is unknown, the lender is likely to assume that you will have credit issues.

White privilege is the lender assuming the white will qualify and the black will not, regardless of what the reality is.

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:02 pm to
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One of the many SJW's on my Facebook said something like, "I don't want to discuss policies with anyone who supports policies that hurt me. Please respect that. I need that energy in order to protect my family from your policies."

I mean...what do you say to that?


What does that even mean? She could have at least posted a list of policies that hurt her so people would know what not to talk to her about.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:02 pm to
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White privilege is the lender assuming the white will qualify and the black will not, regardless of what the reality is.


So white privilege is the assumption that all whites are racist?
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:02 pm to
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That's not the point! THE PERSON WILL THINK YOU WON'T BE, AND THAT CAUSES HARM. AND EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT THINK IT, THEY SUBCONSCIOUSLY THINK IT.


You are close. People do think it, which is a form of oppression.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:03 pm to
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People do think it, which is a form of oppression.


Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:03 pm to
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If you are black and have good credit, you should get the loan. BUT, when you apply for the loan and your credit score is unknown, the lender is likely to assume that you will have credit issues.

White privilege is the lender assuming the white will qualify and the black will not, regardless of what the reality is.


so in the end, its nothing, because the results are still the same?

Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:03 pm to
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So white privilege is the assumption that all whites are racist?


No, though racism can be a factor. It is often something less heinous and sinister, such as the fostering of malicious stereotypes.
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