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re: In your own words, describe your understanding of Islam.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:15 am to ApexTiger
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:15 am to ApexTiger
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What core values do you understand that followers of Islam believe in?
There is one God only, Allah. The Prophet Mohammed is the final prophet of Allah, following previous prophets Moses, Abraham and Jesus. Prophet Mohammed was sent to confirm the teachings of the previous prophets and to point out the errors of the Christians and Jews in their submission to God.
How are Muslims saved? Is there a path or belief to salvation? Who is their savior if one is needed in Islam?
Muslims are not saved like Christians. The Prophet Mohammed IS NOT A SAVIOR (a great blasphemy if believed). Muslims attain the kingdom in the following ways:
• Submission to Allah; belief in no other gods beside Him.
• Attending to prayers.
• Charity to orphans and children.
• Belief in the Day of Judgment
• Pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in life, if possible
What is the foundation of their core beliefs?
• The Holy Koran.
Which scriptures in the Quran are consistent with the New Testament teachings? (if any)
• The Holy Koran asserts that Jesus was a HOLY PROPHET, NOT THE SON OF GOD. While the Koran describes the historic acts of Jesus (miracles, teachings, etc.), it absolutely asserts that the belief that Jesus is the Son of God is an extreme blasphemy that Jesus himself would deny.
The Jews meanwhile, are consistently upbraided for their numerous departures from the strictures of God, given to them by their prophets. The Koran does however refer to the Israelites as the Chosen Ones.
All this coverage in the media about Islamophobia has me a little stirred...
Why doesn't the media ever ask Muslim Americans what their beliefs are? It seems ISLAM's beliefs or doctrine is skipped over...and always labeled "peaceful"...There is never conversation about the religion's beliefs or the Quran.
Why is that?
Why rely on the media to enlighten you–how often do you receive reliable information from those prejudiced morons?
Instead, get a copy of the Koran yourself and read it. ADVICE: Have an Islamic interpreter available to answer your questions, you will have many.
I read the book with an imam in Florida, which made the thing more comprehensible, although the book is rife with conundrums, contradictions and passages that invite the most extreme skepticism–just like the Bible and the Torah.
Good luck.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 8:17 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:25 am to ApexTiger
Christianity without the slick marketing but with more emphasis on goat fricking.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:26 am to ApexTiger
Islam is not a religion as modern day "religion" is understood.
It's a cult.
And, the sooner we start treating it like a cult the better off (and safer) the world will be.
It's a cult.
And, the sooner we start treating it like a cult the better off (and safer) the world will be.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:29 am to ApexTiger
It's not my job to understand Islam. I don't want to enable a delusional group of people by pretending that I want to understand them.
Go anywhere in the world where Islam is the predominant religion and tell me you'd want to live there.
Go anywhere in this country where the majority of the citizens are Muslims and tell me you'd want to live there.
The Islamic religion and culture both suck, I don't have to understand why.
Go anywhere in the world where Islam is the predominant religion and tell me you'd want to live there.
Go anywhere in this country where the majority of the citizens are Muslims and tell me you'd want to live there.
The Islamic religion and culture both suck, I don't have to understand why.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:50 am to ApexTiger
Islam has a long history. We don't have to guess what's it's about or spend lots of time trying to develop a nuanced understanding of it.
Let's treat Islam as what its followers say it is....it's a threat to the West. It's a threat to civilization. A threat to the values that I and you hold dear, whether you're a conservative or a liberal.
Let's treat Islam as what its followers say it is....it's a threat to the West. It's a threat to civilization. A threat to the values that I and you hold dear, whether you're a conservative or a liberal.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:02 am to ApexTiger
Blight on humanity.
Case closed.
Case closed.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:04 am to ApexTiger
How do they compare to Protestants and Catholics?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:08 am to ApexTiger
Radical Islam wants to kill you.
Moderate Islam wants Radical Islam to kill you.
Moderate Islam wants Radical Islam to kill you.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:11 am to ApexTiger
They don't like pork and they frick camels
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:51 am to ApexTiger
It's a religion of piece
Piece of head here....piece of arm there....
Piece of head here....piece of arm there....
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:05 am to ApexTiger
1. Become obsessed with praying
2. Become a psychopathic lunatic because you pray too much and can't eat bacon.
3. Kill some people because they aren't obsessed with praying and love bacon.
4. Die while screaming something about a snack bar.
2. Become a psychopathic lunatic because you pray too much and can't eat bacon.
3. Kill some people because they aren't obsessed with praying and love bacon.
4. Die while screaming something about a snack bar.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:18 am to ApexTiger
OK, here is a thumbnail explanation of Islam. It requires an understanding of value systems.
Western Culture is based on a value system of freedom. That's why the Magna Carta was written. That's why the colonies revolted against the crown. The big advantage of this system is that it is the natural condition of humans.
Humans by nature like freedom. That's why prison is unpleasant.
The value system of Communist countries is Egalitarianism. Humans left to their own nature are dramatically unequal. Therefore, equality can only be achieved through the coercive power of the state. Thus, you have Command Economies and massive redistribution of wealth and strict limits on private property (see land reform).
The value system of Islam is Virtue. A virtuous life pleases Allah and leads to paradise. The problem is that people are not naturally virtuous. If they have free will they will choose to do bad things. Therefore, they must be forced to be good (or they will be killed).
The flaw with this philosophy is obvious to anyone with a grain of logic. There is no such thing as virtue where free will does not exist. IE, if you give a poor person 10 bucks it demonstrates the virtue of charity. If I hold a gun to your head and say "Give the poor person 10 or I'll shoot you" and you comply then you have not performed a virtuous act at all.
The Muslim philosopher Qutb realized that western culture was natural and Islam was not. Therefore he insisted that western culture = a threat to the existence of Islam and must be destroyed (Jihad).
Western Culture is based on a value system of freedom. That's why the Magna Carta was written. That's why the colonies revolted against the crown. The big advantage of this system is that it is the natural condition of humans.
Humans by nature like freedom. That's why prison is unpleasant.
The value system of Communist countries is Egalitarianism. Humans left to their own nature are dramatically unequal. Therefore, equality can only be achieved through the coercive power of the state. Thus, you have Command Economies and massive redistribution of wealth and strict limits on private property (see land reform).
The value system of Islam is Virtue. A virtuous life pleases Allah and leads to paradise. The problem is that people are not naturally virtuous. If they have free will they will choose to do bad things. Therefore, they must be forced to be good (or they will be killed).
The flaw with this philosophy is obvious to anyone with a grain of logic. There is no such thing as virtue where free will does not exist. IE, if you give a poor person 10 bucks it demonstrates the virtue of charity. If I hold a gun to your head and say "Give the poor person 10 or I'll shoot you" and you comply then you have not performed a virtuous act at all.
The Muslim philosopher Qutb realized that western culture was natural and Islam was not. Therefore he insisted that western culture = a threat to the existence of Islam and must be destroyed (Jihad).
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:21 am to ApexTiger
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Which scriptures in the Quran are consistent with the New Testament teachings? (if any)
Virtually none.
Now the Old Testament is a different story. But most people who believe that the Old Testament is part of God's inspired word still don't believe in following it literally today. It's as if modern day fundamentalist Muslims are in a time warp and have the same mentality that Israelites had 5,000 years ago.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:23 am to ApexTiger
Goat-fricking, pedophilic Satanic cult.
Also, head-chopper-offers.
Also, head-chopper-offers.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:05 am to ApexTiger
With all the Quran scholars around here, one would think these posts would be a lot more informative.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:22 am to ApexTiger
It's a religion. Most adherents are cultural and aren't radical. The radicals are dangerous, but our foriegn policy feeds their growth.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:40 am to ApexTiger
Kill any non Muslim.
Islam is bad.
Islam is bad.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:49 am to ApexTiger
Islam is more of a political ideology than a religion. They have a whole system of gevernance called sharia. Their goal is to systematically over take the world through Islamism, which is a kind of political jihad.
The globalists (The EU and the USA Uniparty) have manufactured the migrant crisis in order to destroy Western civilization and usher in the New World Order. We are starting to fight back through Brexit, Trump and hopefully other anti immigration victories in the coming future. Austria is voting tomorrow and France can continue our cultural renaissance by electing Marine Le Pen.
Basically Islam is incompatible with Western values and it is being used as a tool to bring the World to heel. Ask yourself why leftists defend these sexist homophobes. It makes no sense except that they are being used as a tool.
The globalists (The EU and the USA Uniparty) have manufactured the migrant crisis in order to destroy Western civilization and usher in the New World Order. We are starting to fight back through Brexit, Trump and hopefully other anti immigration victories in the coming future. Austria is voting tomorrow and France can continue our cultural renaissance by electing Marine Le Pen.
Basically Islam is incompatible with Western values and it is being used as a tool to bring the World to heel. Ask yourself why leftists defend these sexist homophobes. It makes no sense except that they are being used as a tool.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 11:50 am
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