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Can someone explain to me what Tom Herman has done to be considered elite?

Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted by athletemed
The Woodlands, Texas
Member since Oct 2007
5871 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:16 pm
and thus justify a salary of $5-$6M a year?

I know his rep is great but...what has he done?
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:19 pm to
Doesn't matter does it?
Posted by classy
Member since Dec 2011
559 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:19 pm to
Honestly...not a damn thing. He's winning against inferior competition. Going to be different at Texas.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6750 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:19 pm to
Worked nick Saban with a 3rd string QB.
Posted by floridatiger420
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2015
423 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:20 pm to
•Turned Iowa States offense into a huge threat.
•No matter how many Quarterback injuries st ohio state the next Quarterback performed like a heisman caliber player
•Beat Nick Saban and put up over 40 i believe in them not sure exact number off top of my head
•Beat FSU in 2015 and one loss in first season at Houston
•Beat Heisman front-runner Lamar Jackson and BXII Champion Oklahoma
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3001 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:20 pm to
His status as elite is certainly debatable. Ed's status as mediocre is not.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted by speechles
Member since Jan 2013
1306 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:20 pm to
Went 22-4 at fricking Houston. Nuff said
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10177 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm to
Seems to be an arse, from what I can tell, maybe that's the draw. "Oh he's a real prick, just like Saban." I'm gonna go ahead and say it now, Herman is no Saban.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Bad Medicine
Member since Aug 2014
3575 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm to
He's one of the best young offensive minds in football and paired up with Aranda the ceiling is sky high
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
3429 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm to
His value will probably not be any higher so he is smart to ask for max he can, knowing teams are desperate and will pay.


It's not about what he does, but potential. He has the highest ceiling out of all the candidates with a good history of acquaintances. He's just a perfect storm of good sounding stuff.


Regardless of who you hire, you take a risk. Some coaches are low risk, but average results. Herman is high risk, but chance for home run. In this market, schools have to take risks if they want to establish a dynasty. Because once a coach becomes a dynasty, very unlikely he'll want to leave. So you won't find one just lying around.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted by stowns
BR
Member since Dec 2006
1985 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:22 pm to
Wondered the same thing myself....
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32470 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:22 pm to
Nothing
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:33 pm to
He's not

But he's close

Which is the hire LSU should have made
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98306 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:42 pm to
Turned LSU down

/rantards
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11519 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:43 pm to
Fack if I know

This will be Austin's second failed attempt and they will continue to fail as their leadership, much like LSU's but much worse, is a perpetual dumpster fire
Posted by SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
3489 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:46 pm to
Oh look, another

"good thing we didn't get the coach who lost 3 games this year...and hired the one with less than a 30% winning percentage as HC instead"

Thread.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:49 pm to
- Market for coaches
- Young
- has had success as a coordinator
- recruited in a power conference
- brought Houston to a damn good bowl game
- won at a high rate
- beat Alabama
- learned under Urban Meyer
- Mensa member
- kisses on the cheek
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68482 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:57 pm to
I don't know but there are some stupid idiots on here that would give him reach arounds if that meant he got hired.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:00 pm to
Nothing. He is fools gold.

Brought a fancy offense to Houston. One year later, it's figured out and he loses 3 games in conference. The ALL powerful AAC!


Lost to SMU who was beaten 75-22 at home by Navy! Navy scored 75 on SMU, but his offense couldn't score half that.

Doesn't that make Navy's coach a better option?
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7593 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:25 pm to
His work as an OC at Rice, Iowa State, tOSU, etc was exceptional.

He has done very well as HC at UH.

Is he a guaranteed success as HC at an elite program? No... Especially with the booster schenanigans in Austin
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