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re: Can someone explain to me what Tom Herman has done to be considered elite?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:46 pm to athletemed
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:46 pm to athletemed
Oh look, another
"good thing we didn't get the coach who lost 3 games this year...and hired the one with less than a 30% winning percentage as HC instead"
Thread.
"good thing we didn't get the coach who lost 3 games this year...and hired the one with less than a 30% winning percentage as HC instead"
Thread.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:47 pm
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:49 pm to athletemed
- Market for coaches
- Young
- has had success as a coordinator
- recruited in a power conference
- brought Houston to a damn good bowl game
- won at a high rate
- beat Alabama
- learned under Urban Meyer
- Mensa member
- kisses on the cheek
- Young
- has had success as a coordinator
- recruited in a power conference
- brought Houston to a damn good bowl game
- won at a high rate
- beat Alabama
- learned under Urban Meyer
- Mensa member
- kisses on the cheek
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:54 pm to speechles
quote:
Went 22-4 at fricking Houston. Nuff said
Actually not nuff said...those 4 losses were to UConn, Navy, SMU, and Memphis that if I'm correct, they were double digit favorites in each one of those games...
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:54 pm to floridatiger420
quote:
•Turned Iowa States offense into a huge threat. •No matter how many Quarterback injuries st ohio state the next Quarterback performed like a heisman caliber player •Beat Nick Saban and put up over 40 i believe in them not sure exact number off top of my head •Beat FSU in 2015 and one loss in first season at Houston •Beat Heisman front-runner Lamar Jackson and BXII Champion Oklahoma
Also:
Lost to navy
Lost to Memphis
Made excuses after they lost to navy
He DID NOT beat bama, Urban did
Next Kevin Sumlin
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:56 pm to patnuh
It was more than just a quarterback. That 2014 Ohio state team was something special. Especially when you had so many get drafted. Come on was it really him or was it Urban Meyer calling plays?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:57 pm to athletemed
I don't know but there are some stupid idiots on here that would give him reach arounds if that meant he got hired.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:00 pm to athletemed
Nothing. He is fools gold.
Brought a fancy offense to Houston. One year later, it's figured out and he loses 3 games in conference. The ALL powerful AAC!
Lost to SMU who was beaten 75-22 at home by Navy! Navy scored 75 on SMU, but his offense couldn't score half that.
Doesn't that make Navy's coach a better option?
Brought a fancy offense to Houston. One year later, it's figured out and he loses 3 games in conference. The ALL powerful AAC!
Lost to SMU who was beaten 75-22 at home by Navy! Navy scored 75 on SMU, but his offense couldn't score half that.
Doesn't that make Navy's coach a better option?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:07 pm to the LSUSaint
Herman will be a huge bust at TEXAS Thanks Joe for not paying up......
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:12 pm to fookiebar
Very true fookiebar. It will be a tough road at Texas
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:18 pm to floridatiger420
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•Beat FSU in 2015 and one loss in first season at Houston
FSU didn't give a crap about that game just like Bama didn't care when they got ripped by Utah in Sugar Bowl.
quote:
•Beat Heisman front-runner Lamar Jackson and BXII Champion Oklahoma
But lost to SMU and Louisville just got beat by Kentucky.
Look, he may be the real deal but no one really knows at this point when he steps up in competition. Regardless, he will playing in a weakened conference so he will probably do fine. Baylor ain't coming back quickly. TCU has fallen back to earth. Okie State is..well, it's Okie State there's a ceiling there. Kansas, Iowa State are laughable.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:25 pm to athletemed
His work as an OC at Rice, Iowa State, tOSU, etc was exceptional.
He has done very well as HC at UH.
Is he a guaranteed success as HC at an elite program? No... Especially with the booster schenanigans in Austin
He has done very well as HC at UH.
Is he a guaranteed success as HC at an elite program? No... Especially with the booster schenanigans in Austin
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:30 pm to athletemed
and thus justify a salary of $5-$6M a year?
Well, he went 6-0 against ranked teams as the coach of a non power 5 school, so there's that.
Well, he went 6-0 against ranked teams as the coach of a non power 5 school, so there's that.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:31 pm to athletemed
More than O.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:33 pm to athletemed
record setting OC at iowa st & rice, 22-4 as a head coach, destroyed sabans defense with a 3rd string qb. but all you retards are jacking off when lsu hires a 10-25 coach
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:33 pm to athletemed
he went undefeated against 6 top 25 teams, including 2 top 5 teams, at a school with almost no real talent. Made shite quarterbacks look like all-conference players against bama.
that's pretty fricking good. Stop melting, we got the third best option. We'll be fine.
that's pretty fricking good. Stop melting, we got the third best option. We'll be fine.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:35 pm to athletemed
Its about potential in a business that is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He has the potential, is young. When there are 129 or so FBS schools and only say....4 elite coaches, schools will toss money out there in hopes of catching the next young guy since the SAbans are staying put. If you don't, you are saying you are just waiting for saban to retire. so, he may not be worth it as we will find out soon enough. jUst like NFL QBs...not all are worth their paycheck, but that top tier NFL QB is so important. TEams are willing to shell out millions in hopes of finding the next guy/.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:38 pm to monceaux
Looks like he took over a good program and is in the process of destroying it. The Houston decline is real!
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:41 pm to SeekGreatness
Tom Herman is the strawman for O supporters.
If they point out that he is unproven, whatever that means, then that makes O appear as though he is on equal footing with Herman.
Herman is not elite (yet at least), but he's clearly very intelligent and a great coordinator. Those are reliable indicators for success in the future. Does that mean he will absolutely succeed? Of course not, but you look for the guy that has attributes that lead to success.
If they point out that he is unproven, whatever that means, then that makes O appear as though he is on equal footing with Herman.
Herman is not elite (yet at least), but he's clearly very intelligent and a great coordinator. Those are reliable indicators for success in the future. Does that mean he will absolutely succeed? Of course not, but you look for the guy that has attributes that lead to success.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:51 pm to Goldrush25
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Tom Herman is the strawman for O supporters.
If they point out that he is unproven, whatever that means, then that makes O appear as though he is on equal footing with Herman.
I'm an O supporter now. Like a lot of folks I preferred Herman but Herman is not and was never going to be our coach. There is no argument. Herman will probably win at UT. He has less competition in that chickenshit league. But that doesn't mean that folks should shite on Orgeron. It was prudent to give him the position after Herman was not an option. The lower tier candidates were not exceptional. We don't really know if Herman is exceptional. The bet is that he will be, just not here.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:53 pm to floridatiger420
quote:
Beat Heisman front-runner Lamar Jackson
So did Kentucky.
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