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re: Trying to be objective...is O really a bad decision?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:53 am to Artvandalay18
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:53 am to Artvandalay18
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O is a great recruiter and motivator
How did all that work out for him at Mississippi or this year when we scored ten points at home total against Alabama and Florida?
The fact is, he had five wins over poor teams, one lose against a great team, and one lose against a team we certainly should have beaten.
That's objective and scary given his overall coaching resume.
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:40 am to montana
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Opinions are like gambling. The more one sided people think the lesser side is usually correct.
yeah heavy favorites never win
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He wasn't hired at Syracuse or Purdue because of clash of cultures. Can anyone imagine his great Cajun dialect speaking with those uppity folks?
NO he wasn't hired, because he wasn't a good coach.
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DiNardo failed because of Tepper.
Dinardo wasn't a good coach. We hired a coach with a losing record, and he wasn't good. He has a losing record at 2/3 schools he coached at. He has a losing conference record at all 3 schools. in 12 years of coaching he has 9 losing season to 3 winning seasons. YOu don't hire a coach with a shitty record and expect him not to suck.
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No one liked the Saban hire either, but Emmett taught Saban how to work the administration. That taught Saban to be great.
the year before we hired Nick Saban he had wins over tOSU, Michigan, Penn State, and Notre Dame.
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Alleve has put his entire career on the line for O.
True
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t's been 10 years since the Ole Miss days. He has been mentored and networked better than most college coaches in the past decade.
in the bast decade he has not been mentored better than most college coaches. The Last 2 CFB Coaches he coached with got fired mid season.
HE had 1 year on the Saints roster. I don't think Payton was mentoring a 50 year old DL coach.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:42 am to SammyTiger
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Dinardo wasn't a good coach
He was a good coach that let his ego get the best of him.
CLM would not have done what Dinardo did following Hallman
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:44 am to Topwater Trout
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He was a good coach that let his ego get the best of him.
So he wasn't a good coach.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:50 am to SammyTiger
Dinardo got LSU moving upwards. But when he lost both his OC and DC, he wasn't able to make the right hires to keep the ball rolling. Coach Ed O will be highly dependent on his coordinators. Let's hope he replaces his coordinators better than Dinardo.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:55 am to roscoe mike
Yes
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:58 am to Choupique19
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Dinardo got LSU moving upwards. But when he lost both his OC and DC, he wasn't able to make the right hires to keep the ball rolling. Coach Ed O will be highly dependent on his coordinators. Let's hope he replaces his coordinators better than Dinardo.
This is spot on. O will always be one Lou Tepper away from a bad year and getting canned.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 8:59 am
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:56 pm to LSU Groupee
I agree he's not the guy we need,but he won't influence much of the ocs or dcs
Philosophy I don't think..hes a good recruiter, I promise, just trust me on that .
Philosophy I don't think..hes a good recruiter, I promise, just trust me on that .
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:59 pm to roscoe mike
O is really a pretty safe hire. He will maintain the recruiting and if he is terrible on the field the damage will be minimal because talent will be there for next guy. People freaking out are not looking at things objectively.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:02 pm to Rou Leed
If the talent stops coming, its time to completely freak out.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:03 pm to roscoe mike
Yes, a terrible decision.
When you look at it in terms of a team with a terrible offense, firing the head coach who barely escaped last season, only to replace him with your defensive line coach that has never coordinated anything?
LSU shouldn't settle, but that is exactly what was done here.
When you look at it in terms of a team with a terrible offense, firing the head coach who barely escaped last season, only to replace him with your defensive line coach that has never coordinated anything?
LSU shouldn't settle, but that is exactly what was done here.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:03 pm to Rou Leed
Hes a man at least. Not a downvoting coward.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:08 pm to Rou Leed
At worst he is a less costly version of Miles. The people that got price gauged on Miles facilitated this whole situation. He really took all of those dudes and all of us on a pretty crazy ride.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:10 pm to rocket31
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Purdue wouldn't even hire O
Think about that for a second then answer your own question
It really is this simple. There isn't a college in the country that would have pursued O as a Head Coach option.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:12 pm to Freauxzen
The university that hires Miles is going to wish they hired O.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:14 pm to Rou Leed
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The university that hires Miles is going to wish they hired O.
That isn't possible, because no universities even gave a mere consideration to the idea of interviewing, much less hiring, Orgeron.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:18 pm to Damone
Not sure we really know that or not. Are you sure O didnt receive job offers? Im pretty sure he could have gotten a job at a lower level but chose not to.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:23 pm to warau
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O is well-credentialed and his football/coaching pedigree is outstanding: played on the same Northwestern State team with the likes of Hebert, Reasons, Duper, and Bertrand (he's a buddy of mine so I threw him in just in case he sees this) and coached under Hatfield, Johnson, Pasqualoni, Carroll, and Payton.
This is the most incredible thing ever written on this site.
We're using Bobby Hebert, Mark Duper and Paul fricking Pasqualoni as reasons as to why O has the resume to be the head coach of a Top SEC football program.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:23 pm to Rou Leed
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Not sure we really know that or not. Are you sure O didnt receive job offers? Im pretty sure he could have gotten a job at a lower level but chose not to.
O was jobless two years ago.
He's campaigned multiple times:
Syracuse - So, obviously, my interest would be very high. I'd be highly interested in getting that job.
Ed Orgeron stumps for USC job
Twice.
Ed Orgeron’s desire to return puts USC football coach Steve Sarkisian in awkward spot
And that was just back on as an associate coach.
Oh and I found this gem in relation to his "dream job"
Ed Orgeron: USC is still 'the best place in the world' to play, coach
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:25 pm to Freauxzen
So they werent interested in hiring him in Syracuse and USC so no school in the country wanted to hire him?
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