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re: TX does not want to lose Herman to LSU....

Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:20 am to
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11050 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:20 am to
And finally a TX fan to chime in...thanks for your input, and like I said Hook em horns!
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22553 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:34 am to
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Yeah, our players were definitely not happy to see Miles go.


Id say the opposite. They obviously like Miles, but i think their responses were rather muted all things considered. Youre never going to have players celebrating a firing.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:20 am to
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I like Strong, he was great for us and I think he can coach.


Like Red McCombs, Texas' biggest booster said, he's a fine position coach or coordinator. He can coach, he just can't head coach, at least not at this level. That much is obvious. He did well at Louisville because 1) they weren't in the ACC yet and Louisville's facilities, money, and fan support dwarfed their competitors 2) Bridegwater. So he can beat far inferior programs with superior talent. A whole bunch of coaches can do that.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:22 am
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:28 am to
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Like we did with Mack Brown's 8-5 season?


Mack Brown is white.

Charlie Strong has a history of using the race card.

The current sociopolitical situation in the country is like a can of gasoline when it comes to race relations.

If UT fires Strong for a winning season, much less mid-season, he and his surrogates will be crying racism from the hilltops. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Quannel X, Barack Obama, and Sheila Jackson Lee will be all over the TV shaming UT.

Y'all are in the unenviable situation of having to hope that he completely tanks this year in order to justify firing him.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13138 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:02 pm to
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you would too if your ride to the strip joint was just fired.


Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:11 pm to
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They'll throw $10,000,000 at Herman


I have a feeling LSU would at least match.
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
1597 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:46 pm to
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he current sociopolitical situation in the country is like a can of gasoline when it comes to race relations.

If UT fires Strong for a winning season, much less mid-season, he and his surrogates will be crying racism from the hilltops. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Quannel X, Barack Obama, and Sheila Jackson Lee will be all over the TV shaming UT.

Y'all are in the unenviable situation of having to hope that he completely tanks this year in order to justify firing him.


That's fine. We've hired him. We would have given him three full seasons and a salary of $5+ million a year. If all he's offering is a 7-6 (18-20 overall) record, he can play whatever card he wants. He'll be canned.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
1597 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:47 pm to
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I have a feeling LSU would at least match.


. Fine by me. Let's get into a bidding war. I'm confident in UT.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:51 pm to
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That's fine. We've hired him. We would have given him three full seasons and a salary of $5+ million a year. If all he's offering is a 7-6 (19-19) record, he can play whatever card he wants. He'll be canned.


I think you SHOULD fire him, I just suspect that the administration is VERY leery of the repercussions if he doesn't post a losing record. The fanbase or even the AD doesn't face the same concerns that the university president does. I do not think we'll see a mid-season firing in any event. The disrespect level of that would set off the protests.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:04 pm to
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Fine by me. Let's get into a bidding war. I'm confident in UT.


You're an idiot if you think it would end up being who could outspend the other. You think LSU couldn't pony up just as much as UT? Of course we could, because there is a market value for coaches, and no one is going to pay a coach 30 million a year.

Jesus, the retards really come out nowadays don't they?
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:06 pm to
UTx can't fire Strong during the season this year. Agree that would be playing with fire. And if the offense remains potent, they won't fire him after the season, even if it's a disappointment. The theory being "Well, he fixed the O, maybe next year he can fix the D." He'll get at least one more year to prove himself.

The reason to be concerned if your an LSU fan is that should LSU hire Herman, that's no guarantee that Herman won't be the #1 target of UTx in a couple years when Strong does get the axe. Particularly if Herman has success in the SEC.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37333 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:56 pm to
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Not to mention, like it or not, the racial overtones and ramifications that could occur if this happens.


If Bevo has a winning record and fires Strong, the SJWs that are all over Austin are going to lose their minds.
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
1597 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:07 pm to
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You think LSU couldn't pony up just as much as UT?


Nope. Not even close.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 3:09 pm
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45147 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:29 pm to
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Nope. Not even close.


Well if you plan on spending 50 mil on a coach then no, probably not.

If its 10 mil then LSU could most certainly do that. Would they want to? Idk
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3537 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 4:22 pm to
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Texas will have an image issue if it forces out Strong...when they beat ND in the first game, the players carried Strong off the field...my guess is that the players will have a big issue with Texas running him off.


Agreed. He would have to lose almost all the rest of their games to get canned.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32609 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 4:35 pm to
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if Texas wants Herman they will get him.



wrong
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 5:15 pm to
UT isn't the only school with boosters you know? Last I heard, just one family was in for around 400 million given to LSU. That family alone would buy a WHOLE bunch of Hermans.

Also, it's also said that same family is one of the ones pushing for Herman. So...bid away queer.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8126 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 5:17 pm to
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That's fine. We've hired him. We would have given him three full seasons and a salary of $5+ million a year. If all he's offering is a 7-6 (18-20 overall) record, he can play whatever card he wants. He'll be canned.

I've always thought Strong was going to be a great head coach at a major school.

Are you still optimistic? I haven't paid close attention to Texas, but I still have an ignorant / uninformed opinion that Strong will turn it around.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 7:40 pm to
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I still have an ignorant / uninformed opinion that Strong will turn it around.


Not going to happen. Like UTx biggest booster Red McCombs said, the man is a fine position coach, but not a head coach. His success at Louisville came from Louisville having way more money and fan support and better facilities than any of their competitors back before they joined the ACC. That and Teddy Bridgewater.

However, UTx has WAY too much talent relative to that conference for them to just totally bomb anytime soon. So he can keep muddling along at 6 or 7 wins for a long time. That's the nightmare. He isn't doing poorly enough to fire, but it's clear at this point that he's out of his element. He's a prolific race card puller who his team carries off the field like a circuit midget, and the national race situation is what it is, so there needs to be sufficient evidence of total failure to fire him without it blowing up in their faces. But will there be? That's the $1,000,000 (or $10,000,000) question. I'm telling you; if he wins 7 games again they are stuck with him for a another year.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 7:57 pm to
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Texas Brass has the ego of "we can get who we want, when we want". Their whole state has that mind set



They couldn't get Saban... Guess they are not as good as they think they are.
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