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re: Nick Saban and "the process"

Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:56 am to
Posted by lsu xman
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:56 am to
Saban said he doesn't text at all. Anyone buy that?
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:56 am to
Meyer is up there
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:58 am to
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Saban said he doesn't text at all. Anyone buy that?



My dad doesn't text at all and he's younger than Saban by about eight years.

Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:03 am to
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Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?


I don't think it is made up. There is a reason Saban and Belechick are the best.

That is why our (LSU) fans drive me nuts at times. Nobody beats Saban with any consistency.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:09 am to
Nick Saban's process is how he develops players. He expects his individual players to execute as they are taught with the process. The next step in the process is to coordinate the individual activities into the schemes he wants to use. Getting everyone synchronized. Saban's process is damn effective, but it is not perfect since the schemes may not always work.

One thing Saban is not given enough credit for is recognizing when his schemes have flaws, and I think the process helps him do this. When he recognizes flaws in his schemes he makes corrective changes to his schemes. I think this is the aspect of the process that is overlooked, and it is why he seems to stay one step ahead of the opposition.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:27 am to
If you put the work in, he respects you. If he respects you, then he will listen to you. If he listens to you, then you become part of his process

Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:49 am to
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It is as though he doesn't care about he results at all.

I personally believe this is why he's so successful. He doesn't stress the results, he stresses the process because he knows it will bring results. Not everyone operates that way.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:50 am to
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My dad doesn't text at all and he's younger than Saban by about eight years.


Your dads livelihood is not based on the wavering opinions of 17-18 year olds either. No I don't buy that he doesn't text.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79337 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:58 am to
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Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?

Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach. The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd.
not at all made up, IMO. it sounds like bullshite from the outside, but the results speak for themselves.

i think with saban, it's about the attention to detail, leaving no stones unturned. and if you spot any, how do you address it? how does one address roster turnover and recruiting needs? they do it better than anyone else.

sure, every coach in the profession has a process, some are stronger than others, and a few select ones are ironclad. saban's just happens to be the best one.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:01 am to
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One thing Saban is not given enough credit for is recognizing when his schemes have flaws, and I think the process helps him do this. When he recognizes flaws in his schemes he makes corrective changes to his schemes.
Sounds exactly like...uhh... that Les Miles fella.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:02 am to
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Your dads livelihood is not based on the wavering opinions of 17-18 year olds either. No I don't buy that he doesn't text.



I know for a fact that he didn't text as of 2007-08. Now that I think about it. My best friend was an RA in one of the dorms at Alabama and one of his residents actually worked in the athletic department as a communications assistant. Her job was to help keep track of recruits who were scheduled to visit the campus. Because of this, Saban would correspond with her on the reg. She didn't particularly like talking on the phone and I remember her remarking about how annoyed she was that Saban never texted. When he wanted something he would always call her.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30950 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:05 am to
What "The Process" is, it starts and ends with his ability to recruit elite talent.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79337 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:06 am to
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What "The Process" is, it starts and ends with his ability to recruit elite talent.
that's simplifying it, though isn't it?

it's how you transform that elite talent is what he's recognized for.

elite talent makes it easier, though.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111241 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:08 am to
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What "The Process" is, it starts and ends with his ability to recruit elite talent.
LSU recruits elite talent, so does it start and end there?
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38430 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:09 am to
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I know for a fact that he didn't text as of 2007-08.

That was a long time ago.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:18 am to
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I personally believe this is why he's so successful. He doesn't stress the results, he stresses the process because he knows it will bring results. Not everyone operates that way.


This is the process in a nutshell. It's never about "we need to win this game"

With Saban, it's do all of these little things and it will lead to winning 95% of your games. If you get caught up in the end result, you miss some of the necessary steps for maximizing your ability to attain the desired end result. His philosophy is that the results will take care of themselves if we prepare the right way.

It's, "I need to do this in order for that to happen" as opposed to "I need that to happen"
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:21 am to
His process is legit.

Do everything right along the way and the end result will be a favorable one.

He didn't make that up though. He just made it famous by calling it "The Process". He's a detail oriented workaholic. Perfect combo for success.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162289 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:24 am to
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If every other coach is doing it, they suck at it. Nick Saban's resume speaks for itself. He can call his system whatever he wants


I'm not doubting the resume

I'm doubting that he's the only process oriented coach out there

And let's be honest, the resume only became impressive when he went to Alabama.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162289 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:26 am to
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Miles plays for "victory" only and says so.


But as far as preparation goes there is some sort of process in place

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