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re: College Football Week 1/Futures Bet Thread

Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:02 am to
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:02 am to
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For NFL I'm hooked on Net YPP differential with a factor and 'true' homefield adjustments...


see, i wouldnt even know how to set up a formula like this

Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:24 am to
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I've yet to figure out what is actually "predicative", if anything.


Stats that do not take opponent or pace into account.

For example, rushing yards per game.

A team who rushes for 600 yards against Eastern Michigan, UTEP, and Alcorn State will have a 200 rushing yards per game average.

A team who rushes for 600 yards against Alabama, LSU, and Florida will have a 200 rushing yards per game average.

Clearly the 2nd team is more impressive, but both teams get treated equally - 200 rushing yards per game.

Then you have teams like Texas Tech. Average 500 yards of offense per game. But on how many plays? Averaging 500 yards of offense per game running 100 offensive plays. A team who averages 500 yards of offense per game running 60 plays. The 2nd team is more superior but both get treated the same = 500 yards of offense per game.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49186 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:25 am to
this stuff is fascinating
Posted by maclauer
Member since Nov 2011
4765 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:34 am to
For opening Thursday night:
WKU -16.5
SC/Vandy u42.5
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:36 am to
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WKU -16.5


My excel spreadsheets and my own capping are in love with this play as long as it is on the ride side of 17

If WKU still had Doughty this line is around 28 or so. Is he really worth 11 points? Because WKU returns pretty much everyone except Doughty.

Rice will be worse than last year, where they lost to WKY at home 49-10.
Posted by kkhere
Member since Nov 2009
428 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:42 am to
I'm parlaying:

UGA -2.5
UCLA +2
Posted by rawDAWG333
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:50 am to
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Anyone use BetDSI.com?


I use DSI. Never had any problems with it and you won't have to worry about lines coming out late. I'm pretty sure they put them up Sunday night.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57572 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:04 am to
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I use DSI. Never had any problems with it and you won't have to worry about lines coming out late. I'm pretty sure they put them up Sunday night.


Is it some what easy to withdraw money from the site? I know some sites I've used in the past make it almost impossible. I'm looking for a new site, sportsbook has been pissing me off lately.
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:54 am to
last year a poster (accnodefense) posted some spreadsheets and simulation models. I enjoyed having those but I haven't seen him in this threat yet
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57572 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:55 am to
wasn't he the guy that was always wrong though? I might be thinking of another poster
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14663 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:59 am to
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last year a poster (accnodefense) posted some spreadsheets and simulation models. I enjoyed having those but I haven't seen him in this threat yet

I'm pretty sure his sheets turned to shite as the season went on. He started off hot though. I liked looking through them, hope he tries again this year.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12316 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:11 am to
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I'd be careful with sites like Sportsplays, BetLabs, and their "system creator" tools. The stats they use for the variables are elementary and not predicative at all.

I don't use any of their tools. I just do it on my own and use the site to place the bets and keep track of how I do.
quote:

Stats that do not take opponent or pace into account.

For example, rushing yards per game.

A team who rushes for 600 yards against Eastern Michigan, UTEP, and Alcorn State will have a 200 rushing yards per game average.

A team who rushes for 600 yards against Alabama, LSU, and Florida will have a 200 rushing yards per game average.

Clearly the 2nd team is more impressive, but both teams get treated equally - 200 rushing yards per game.

Then you have teams like Texas Tech. Average 500 yards of offense per game. But on how many plays? Averaging 500 yards of offense per game running 100 offensive plays. A team who averages 500 yards of offense per game running 60 plays. The 2nd team is more superior but both get treated the same = 500 yards of offense per game.



That's the general gist of what I do. Plus I'll weight it based on more recent performances.
quote:

there is always at least one every single year

I probably should have just left that line out. I would've been happy with 64%.
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:15 am to
yea, but like the first 6 weeks they were hot. I would use them and just play the higher percentages. Did well early in the season with it. Of course the lower percentages probably started falling off earlier.

ETA: I hope he tries again too
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 11:16 am
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
47192 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:31 am to
quote:

If WKU still had Doughty this line is around 28 or so. Is he really worth 11 points? Because WKU returns pretty much everyone except Doughty.


The projected starter at WKU is a transfer from USF who previously made 15 starts for them.. 2700 yards total but 11 TDs and 16 INTs.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66519 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 2:44 pm to
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last year a poster (accnodefense) posted some spreadsheets and simulation models. I enjoyed having those but I haven't seen him in this threat yet


yes, he is back posting under his original handle, "goldennugget"
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

yes, he is back posting under his original handle, "goldennugget"


If true, will you be posting the sheets Golden?
Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
5701 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 3:18 pm to
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yes, he is back posting under his original handle, "goldennugget"


Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32035 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 5:33 pm to
im just glad aVa is banned and cant post in here screwing this thread up as usual.
Posted by rawDAWG333
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 6:05 pm to
This thread needs more quality posters like aVa, imo

#FreeaVa
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 6:06 pm
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 6:13 pm to




I'm back, bitches.
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