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re: Medical residency spinoff. Rank the specialties
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:32 pm to CaptainZappin
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:32 pm to CaptainZappin
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I think the best way to evaluate pay is the per hour pay.
If you're a neurosurgeon or orthopod making $750k per year, but working 100 hour weeks almost every week, it really dilutes things. And will burn you out no matter how much you love your job. For most people, it doesn't matter how much you make, you'll find a way to piss it all away. . .
On the other hand, if you can be a FP or IM doc, work a 40-45 hour week (yes, it exists) and make $250k-$300K, it's a similar situation insofar as per hour pay. The trade off is that you're home more with your family, in your treestand, on your boat, etc. If you can't live a great life on that income, you've got problems.
Emergency medicine is nice because you can work 12 ten hour shifts a month which equates to about 27 hours a week. Doctors around Shreveport and doctors in Texas can pull 400k with those hours. That comes out to close to 300 bucks an hour and minimal hours worked. No call. No pagers. Freedom to just pick up and move and go practice somewhere with a beach or with mountains for a little while if that's your thing. Hell, some docs work really hard the first two weeks of the month and then travel a week or two. Being able to take a vacation once a month is a rare thing in any field, let alone medicine. There's a reason why emergency medicine is getting more and more competitive. The "roads" thing is sometimes called e-roads now.
Also, because procedures pay so well and you do your own, EM isn't facing the infringement that is being seen from other providers on fields like radiology or anesthesiology.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:36 pm to uptownsage
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Dermatology
You call yourself a life saver. I call you pimple popper M.D.!
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:37 pm to SECdragonmaster
My uncle's wife is a radiologist who makes a shite ton, and gets like a month and a half off every year
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:47 pm to cwil177
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No, students decide which specialty they desire based on what fits their personality, interests, and career goals. If I'm spending 200k on my education you better bet I'm not letting "community needs" choose for me. Nothing sad about this.
This was certainly a resurrected topic.
I think you misread my statement, or I wrote it poorly.
The needs of a community are directly proportional to how much the community is willing to pay for your service. If you choose a specialty (that you enjoy) that is also highly needed in a community...you can make a great impact on the community and a good deal of money for your work. This has nothing to do with "best specialty" rankings.
I was not saying we live to serve.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:55 pm to dewster
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I've never heard of this used before. Is it a new specialty or is it just another word for internist?
I think Hospitalists are usually internal medicine or family medicine. It's a position. I don't think it's a specialty.
I know that in the next few years you will need to do a fellowship to become a Pediatric Hospitalist. It is a position within a hospital, but in Peds it's becoming more and more popular.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:02 pm to lilsnappa
So what exactly will the difference between a pediatrician and a pediatric hospitalist be? Is it just a pediatrician who works exclusively at the hospital?
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:06 pm to metallica81788
Retina and Vitreous demand is extremely high for these docs and they can write their own ticket
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:16 pm to Corkfather
Hospitalist is a pediatrician or internal medicine doc that exclusively admits and treats inpatients.
No clinic work.
Predictable hours and call schedule.
No clinic work.
Predictable hours and call schedule.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:17 pm to Cosmo
I don't see why that has to be considered it's own specialty.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:17 pm to Jim Rockford
Where are my fellow pathologists at?! We make none of the rankings. People forget we exist. Lifestyle is great. Pay is middle of the road with a lot of room for advancement. We don't have an intern year. I like it.
Then again, I got disillusioned in medical school and didn't want to see patients anymore.
Then again, I got disillusioned in medical school and didn't want to see patients anymore.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:17 pm to Corkfather
Its not a specialty per se but they do have residencies tailored towards it.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:18 pm to Blob Fish
Pathology seems boring AF
I guess the lifestyle is good but damn I hate staring in microscopes.
I guess the lifestyle is good but damn I hate staring in microscopes.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:20 pm to Cosmo
I can play fantasy football WHILE I practice medicine and drink coffee. I'm not a guy who has to love what he does. I just can't hate it. Path is fine. It's all work.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:26 pm to SECdragonmaster
Yeah, well medical reimbursements are not based on willingness to pay. In our country, the most needed specialists typically get paid the least because their labor is covered by Medicare/Medicaid, and the doctors can't negotiate their salaries. The docs who make the most pop pimples and put in fake tits. It's bass ackwards.
The worst internist and best internist have to charge the same for the same procedure.
The worst internist and best internist have to charge the same for the same procedure.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:30 pm to Blob Fish
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The docs who make the most pop pimples and put in fake tits. It's bass ackwards.
If I'm not mistaken Orthopedic surgeons make the most followed by neuro.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:35 pm to Jim Rockford
Emergency Medicine... No call time...
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:36 pm to MrSpock
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1. Whatever specialty best fits you and your personality.
2. The Rest
^^This
You need to do all the rotations and find what fits your personality.
As an addiction medicine/public health/FP physician I thoroughly enjoy what I do and don't usually view going to work as a chore. The money aspect is also not cut and dry - I make more than several specialists I know who work many, many more hours. Make yourself happy and the rest is just gravy.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:40 pm to Corkfather
I was being sarcastic. Yes, they make the most on average.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:53 pm to Cosmo
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Its not a specialty per se but they do have residencies tailored towards it.
I could be totally wrong, but I think we have a friend doing a hospitalist fellowship at Baylor.
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