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re: Let's discuss Nintendo's foray into the mobile market
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:32 pm to CBandits82
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:32 pm to CBandits82
yea... the market must know something I don't
I've seen the Trading update announced, not a battle system yet. If they add in a battle system then this game will exceed every expectation and more.
I've seen the Trading update announced, not a battle system yet. If they add in a battle system then this game will exceed every expectation and more.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:34 pm to jefforize
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having to go outside is a novel concept, but being unable to really play this game inside your house (because nothing spawns there) will be the games downfall
Yeah, I'm not going out wandering around town a making a special trip to go to a stop. I know it's supposed to get you out but I'm not going to a grave yard at night or drive to a river or lake to find a pokemon.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:35 pm to jefforize
It really needs a battle system.
That has to be coming IMO.
You nailed it though, battle system plus the outside collecting aspect would take this thing to even more heights.
That has to be coming IMO.
You nailed it though, battle system plus the outside collecting aspect would take this thing to even more heights.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:39 pm to hawgfaninc
You can bet your arse they will come out with a game on the nx that allows you to bring your mobile captured Pokemon into play. Much like a Pokemon stadium concept or platform Pokemon adventure.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:43 pm to CBandits82
Actual real time combat isn't a possibility, but setting a defense and an offensive team for 'your base' would be possible.
Say some pokemon have defensive skills (buff all pokemon when defending, build walls, lay traps, dig in and fortify)...
Some have offensive skills (phase thru wall, dig under defenses, water assault, Aerials assault, charge through a wall)
Have each player build a team of both and then have base battles in the game for coins and lures etc
Would be cool.
If that's too complicated then just a 3v3 or 5v5 with the existing cp, hp, and moveset variables would be fine.
The existing gym combat system is terrible. Defending pokemon only attack half as fast as offensive pokemon. And they can't dodge.
Say some pokemon have defensive skills (buff all pokemon when defending, build walls, lay traps, dig in and fortify)...
Some have offensive skills (phase thru wall, dig under defenses, water assault, Aerials assault, charge through a wall)
Have each player build a team of both and then have base battles in the game for coins and lures etc
Would be cool.
If that's too complicated then just a 3v3 or 5v5 with the existing cp, hp, and moveset variables would be fine.
The existing gym combat system is terrible. Defending pokemon only attack half as fast as offensive pokemon. And they can't dodge.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:45 pm to hawgfaninc
As someone who's never touched anything Pokeman related, ever, yet always been a Nintendo fan: Pokemon is unique within Nintendo and the gaming world at large. There is literally no way to duplicate this success. It's a property that is tailor made for something like this.
Does anyone remember FourSquare? Yeah me neither.
This would be infinitely stupid.
Good for Nintendo.
Mobile games like this last 12-18 months tops. Candy Crush was a hit, for a short time. Crusaders. Does anyone talk about Angry Bird releases? It would almost have to be redesigned constantly to last 3 years.
Would work in theory, but does not have near the following of Pokemon.
Nope
Double nope.
huh?
I hope Nintendo sticks to its past, not goes all in on anything. Pokemon Go could be a great project to lead a particular type of interaction, maybe it feeds into some kind of console Pokemon experience or something, but no, they should not become a location-based mobile gaming company. This sounds dumb.
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Are location-based features far more potent money-making tools than anyone has realized?
Does anyone remember FourSquare? Yeah me neither.
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Should Nintendo immediately ditch all of its console plans and put all its core franchises on the iOS platform?
This would be infinitely stupid.
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Once Pokemon GO launches in markets other than the US, Australia and New Zealand, it will quite likely become a $1 billion annual behemoth.
Good for Nintendo.
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With moderately professional updates and expansions, it can stay at that level for at least 3-5 years.
Mobile games like this last 12-18 months tops. Candy Crush was a hit, for a short time. Crusaders. Does anyone talk about Angry Bird releases? It would almost have to be redesigned constantly to last 3 years.
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There is no reason why Animal Crossing,
Would work in theory, but does not have near the following of Pokemon.
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Zelda
Nope
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Mario
Double nope.
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particularly since location-based features fit all three naturally.
huh?
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Nintendo has now seen just how fantastically profitable its back catalogue can be. The app industry has witnessed how much money location-based and collectible-oriented titles can gross.
I hope Nintendo sticks to its past, not goes all in on anything. Pokemon Go could be a great project to lead a particular type of interaction, maybe it feeds into some kind of console Pokemon experience or something, but no, they should not become a location-based mobile gaming company. This sounds dumb.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 5:57 pm to Jon Ham
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Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing are both in the works to come out sometime this fall or close the the end of the year. I know nothing about either game but will definitely be giving both a shot.
Yeah, those two could work, but save for Warioware and maybe Mario Party, I don't see how any of their other franchises would work. You couldn't make a Mario game as good on the iPhone as you could on the 3DS. Zelda and Metroid would be impossible. Pokemon is a logical one and is everyone's fantasy of Pokemon coming to the real world. No one has such fantasies for any of Nintendo's other properties (save maybe F-Zero).
Posted on 7/11/16 at 6:17 pm to Mystery
Mobile games fricking suck
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 6:34 pm to hawgfaninc
I just want Super Mario Bros on my iPad . Is that too much to ask?
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 7:49 pm to hawgfaninc
I find it amazing that people think mobile gaming is somehow a replacement for home consoles. I see this spewed all the time, it must come from National writers who have no clue about video games.
Pokemon go is interesting and I'm having fun with it, but if they don't significantly change how pokemon capturing works people will get burned out quickly.
Pokemon go is interesting and I'm having fun with it, but if they don't significantly change how pokemon capturing works people will get burned out quickly.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 7:53 pm to Freauxzen
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Mobile games like this last 12-18 months tops. Candy Crush was a hit, for a short time
You're a good poster and I agree with the overall point of your post, but the above just isn't true. Candy Crush is top 5 grossing right now on Android. King prints money from that game and the sequels it inspired. Clash of Clans still rakes in money years after it's release, etc. The top mobile games have proven to have greater sustainability than 12-18 months. Trust me, I look at this stuff on a daily basis
Posted on 7/11/16 at 7:56 pm to jefforize
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People are seriously over estimating the sustainability of this game
This game will be just the latest fad. It will disappear in a couple months
Posted on 7/11/16 at 7:56 pm to DrSteveBrule
I mean it's a video game you CAN'T play at home. No way this lasts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 8:01 pm to jefforize
Well the only redeeming quality about the game is that you have to leave your home to play. It's the interaction with the world and getting rewarded for it that's the draw.
The game itself is shallow as frick. It's not a pokemon game. It's an AR game with pokemon as the backdrop.
You level pokemon up by catching MORE pokemon of the same type... wtf? The candy system makes absolutely no sense in the context of pokemon, and you don't battle pokemon before you catch them.
It's like the developers had to come up with a way to addict people and get them playing for a long time and the first thing they wrote on the chalk board is what they went with.
So really the author of the article is saying nintendo should abandon their principles completely and go where the money is, which is the most gullible group of gamers in the history of the industry.
Don't get me wrong, I love nintendo and I'm happy they're able to have a mobile cash cow because I feel like they're a very genuine company with principals in an industry devoid of them and it helps them stay afloat, but the day they go mobile only is the day I say "well nice to have known ya".
The game itself is shallow as frick. It's not a pokemon game. It's an AR game with pokemon as the backdrop.
You level pokemon up by catching MORE pokemon of the same type... wtf? The candy system makes absolutely no sense in the context of pokemon, and you don't battle pokemon before you catch them.
It's like the developers had to come up with a way to addict people and get them playing for a long time and the first thing they wrote on the chalk board is what they went with.
So really the author of the article is saying nintendo should abandon their principles completely and go where the money is, which is the most gullible group of gamers in the history of the industry.
Don't get me wrong, I love nintendo and I'm happy they're able to have a mobile cash cow because I feel like they're a very genuine company with principals in an industry devoid of them and it helps them stay afloat, but the day they go mobile only is the day I say "well nice to have known ya".
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 8:06 pm to DrSteveBrule
Yeah..then they tripled every number.
400 magikarp candy for a Gyrados
So you'd have to capture 101 magikarp for 1 gyrados. And then it may evolve with garbage skills and be XS so it's trash. Better regrind 101 more magikarp kids!
400 magikarp candy for a Gyrados
So you'd have to capture 101 magikarp for 1 gyrados. And then it may evolve with garbage skills and be XS so it's trash. Better regrind 101 more magikarp kids!
Posted on 7/11/16 at 8:15 pm to jefforize
Oh and probably the worst thing: I've heard so many new people say "oh man this is amaxing! I see what all the pokemon fuss is about!" Like this game is somehow an accurate representation of the franchise.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 8:16 pm to DrSteveBrule
These damn kids don't know shite about trying to level all 3 birds plus Mewtwo to lvl 99 for recess pokemon wars at school in the 90s
Fwiw I think pokemon go is a great concept and will be following it.
Fwiw I think pokemon go is a great concept and will be following it.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 8:37 pm to jefforize
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I've seen the Trading update announced, not a battle system yet. If they add in a battle system then this game will exceed every expectation and more.
In the original video, this as well as mass battles with Legendary Pokemon were promised. We are for all intents and purposes in the Beta version of this game. There's so much more shite they can add to this game that it's nuts.
Imagine if they put Team Rocket in to challenge you randomly to battles. Imagine if every city had an Elite 4 you could build yourself up to. They could rent out huge bars for whenever they put Mewtwo into play. Then of course they can release Gen II Pokemon and beyond. It is really the most limitless mobile game of all time.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 8:43 pm to Weagle25
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I just want Super Mario Bros on my iPad . Is that too much to ask?
Yeah, because you need buttons and a D-Pad for it to work. It's bitterly disappointing without it. Don't believe me, play Sonic on an iPhone. Only Mario properties I think could work on the iPhone are Mario Party, Dr Mario, and Warioware. No way can we have platforming Mario on a touch screen without sodomizing the product.
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