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re: Sansa becoming a b*tch....yeah I said it

Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37924 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:02 pm to
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My feelings about Sansa are well documented here. She's been a horrible person since we first met her. Insufferable count is the term I like to use.

I have, nor ever have had, any pity for her. frick Sansa
So you have no leeway for her because she was a pretentious count as a child?

Doesn't matter what has happened since? I think she has paid for her childhood unicorn dreams 100-fold.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16975 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:02 pm to
When Arya saw her brother Robb's body, you can feel her pain. When Sansa glanced at Rickon's body, eh.."where Ramsay?".
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51874 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:06 pm to
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You just suck at making me feel bad about myself. That's too bad because i was starting to think that you're cool dude.


Drizz is very cool muchacho
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:09 pm to
Jesus christ, some of you... Just lmao.

In season 1, Sansa was a 13 year old girl. Of course she's going to be a brat. On top of that, she's right, she was the only one who really knew what Bolton was capable of and it went just like she predicted it would. I'm not sure how she's a bitch, but then again that's what you almost have to be in their world. I know damn well if I was her, I'd have done much worse to Bolton.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37924 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:10 pm to
Thanks, but not needed. I said my peace and won't take it further.

Posters just bother me sometimes - myself included. Reason I've been absent from M/TV in general for a while.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29131 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:13 pm to
Just cut her a little slack.

She has the right to be a little bitter as she gets older.

She's getting close to "Old Maid" territory.


She lost both her parents and several siblings.

She likely misses her first husband ... who would not even have sex with her ... preferring a whore.

She also lost one of the best brothers-in-law that a woman could ever ask for ... he gave her so much attention.

And now, she's lost her second husband and just didn't have the courage to stop it.



People should just try to walk a mile in her shoes.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20451 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:15 pm to
Why she didn't tell Jon about the Knights of the Vale is pretty infuriating. Did she want the army for herself if things went bad with Jon? Did she not wanna get his hopes up if she couldn't deliver them? Did she just not know for sure if they were gonna show up? Did she think Jon wouldn't trust Littlefinger? Does Jon even know who Littlefinger is (he probably does)? Hopefully they address it next episode.

Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27828 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:15 pm to
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So you have no leeway for her because she was a pretentious count as a child?


No. There are times I even question if she was Ned's daughter, or some form of payback Cat did for Jon Snow.

quote:

Doesn't matter what has happened since? I think she has paid for her childhood unicorn dreams 100-fold.


To each their own.

Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29131 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:17 pm to
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Did she think Jon wouldn't trust Littlefinger? Does Jon even know who Littlefinger is (he probably does)?



That's the impression that I get.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:27 pm to
She knew exactly what she was doing. She wanted Ramsay to think he had won easily and then to take it all away to torture him.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14686 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:28 pm to
I won't go as far as bashing her. But I do not trust her. She certainly is not a Stark in my eyes anymore. Feeding Ramsay to his own dogs is an action in line with the Lannisters or Boltons. In one of the first chapters it is established that the Starks do not use a headsman. If you are going to execute someone you should do it by your own hand. She betrayed her own house by withholding information and sacrificing thousands of fighters loyal to her while relying on a foreign army to save the day.
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:29 pm to
Yeah, Sansa needs to serve the male characters' dinner and keep her mouth shut.
Posted by brmach
Member since Aug 2012
772 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:43 pm to
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what Sansa did was sadistic, secretive, and monumentally stupid.


Sadistic? Maybe. Secretive? Certainly. But it was far from stupid. Sansa made a cold and calculated military decision that worked to perfection. It's much like the call Robb made to send a portion of his army as a decoy to Tywin while the bulk of his force engaged and captured Jaimie. It may have been more honorable to join all the forces and engage in a head-to-head battle, but honor doesn't win wars. Strategy and treachery will get you much farther.
Posted by StarSaint
lafayette
Member since Nov 2006
7490 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:45 pm to
Sansa has always been a B. nothing new here...
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
870 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:51 pm to
The more I think about it you're right in that she no longer resembles the Starks or the North. I really didn't want her to marry LF, so that she could rule the north, but now I hoe they do and move to the Vail. I guess it wasn't a coincidence that only Jon Snow and Ayria have dark hair and look like Starks.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20451 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:52 pm to
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She wanted Ramsay to think he had won easily and then to take it all away to torture him.


Pretty douchey risk if that's what she was actually doing. Sansa might be becoming an operator, but I don't see her being that cold blooded to Jon.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21281 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:53 pm to
I agree with everything you said, except Sansa's always been a bitch. Like back to the very first episode.
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:56 pm to
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I won't go as far as bashing her. But I do not trust her. She certainly is not a Stark in my eyes anymore. Feeding Ramsay to his own dogs is an action in line with the Lannisters or Boltons. In one of the first chapters it is established that the Starks do not use a headsman. If you are going to execute someone you should do it by your own hand. She betrayed her own house by withholding information and sacrificing thousands of fighters loyal to her while relying on a foreign army to save the day.



Did you just not watch any of the previous episodes where Ramsay did the things he did. Also, let's keep in mind that Ramsay had literally just killed her brother in front of her eyes. Game of Thrones is not a show about compassion and forgiving. I was honestly expecting worse to befall Ramsay.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14686 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:57 pm to
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Strategy and treachery will get you much farther.

Yeah, but I don't see sacrificing nearly your entire army to win the battle as a great strategic decision. I'd like to see someone count the heads still alive when the Vale saves the day, couldn't have been more that a few hundred men. I understand that there are still Houses to pull men from, but how can you trust them when they refused to fight against Ramsay.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14686 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:02 pm to
Yeah, but she didn't appear to give a damn that Rickon had died, and she wasn't at the battlefield to see Rickon killed anyways. It seemed as if she'd already ridden off to find LF.
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