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Why did it take so long for police to finally engage the Orlando shooter?

Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:33 pm
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15515 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:33 pm
I'm not trying to flame or anything, but I would like an honest real answer because i have been wondering. From what I have heard the shooter was finally dead three hours after he first begin his reign of terror. Why did this take so long?

Is there certain police protocol and their safety since they were outgunned. Why couldnt officers just jump in there when shots are constantly going off and bodies are falling...

Maybe someone here involved in law enforcement or something of this nature can help me. Again, I'm not in no way flaming Orlando PD in anyway, I just want to know reasons
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20942 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:39 pm to
Theycan't just bust in there without assessing the situation first
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28909 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:40 pm to
Police were attempting negotiating, buying time.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:44 pm to
He had possible hostages
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8311 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:45 pm to
For one, he told them he had bombs that he was strapping to hostages
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
143076 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:48 pm to
had to make sure it was an act of Christian gun violence and not Islamic terrorism
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114216 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:50 pm to
This might help you better understand.

LINK
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:54 pm to
He locked himself in a bathroom with hostages and said he had a bomb
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:55 pm to
There was a guy standing in front of the door
Posted by Tigertracks
Houma La.
Member since Nov 2007
765 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:03 pm to
It would have taken a lot of courage and initiative for one or two officers to enter the building, perhaps through another entrance. And a lot of luck to get to the guy. That didn't happen.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:03 pm to
>>they were outgunned

The local SWAT team was definitely not outgunned, they were armed better than the murderer. But you don't want to charge into a bomb spraying nails either.

Reports are that they were also worried about booby traps. Apparently there were indications that the perp might have placed explosives specifically to stop LEO from charging in to save the day.

Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9733 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:07 pm to
Why not take a few minutes and do a little research before getting on a chat board and asking questions?
Posted by Kankles
Member since Dec 2012
5923 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:08 pm to
The bar was a gun free zone, can't just run in there melting the barrels
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35702 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Why did it take so long for police to finally engage the Orlando shooter?
They had to give him time to call 911 and make several Facebook posts.

Otherwise how could they have connected him to Islamic terrorism and ISIS?

Law enforcement is smarter than you give them credit for.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52969 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:51 pm to
Because Obama planned it that way.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15673 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:47 pm to
An awful thought, but were anyone else shot by the police while trying to shoot the gunman? It seems like with him having hostages and so many shots going off, it would be impossible to not shoot others in the process of killing the gunman.
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4071 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:14 pm to
I just can't see how he shot 100 people without being ambushed by the 300 other people in there. It has to be chaotic with all the running.
Posted by KingBarkus
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
8364 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 7:39 am to
Did the shooter kill the security guard in the first exchange of gunfire? I read the linked NYT article but it did not mention if the security person there was killed. I have to assume he was if the rampage continued.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 7:49 am to
Because it was a false flag operation.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17321 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:41 am to
I got some inside information yesterday on this. OPD is in hot water over their delay. They thought that the shooter had a bomb and itvwascan ambush. While they were gathering Intel and planning, many of the victims bled out. There will be a lot of controversy in the future but, the media is keeping it quiet for now.
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