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re: Austin, TX people: Is Uber/Lyft leaving your town?

Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:19 am to
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90191 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:19 am to
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I hope not.


Well they did. At least for now...

Still operating in the 'burbs, though. I think.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39646 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:29 am to
There is some app called "GetMe" that I just heard of this morning that is still on, so maybe that will be a boon for them.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90191 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:32 am to
There are a couple of small TNC's that have been saying for months now that they're prepared to fill the void left by Uber and Lyft.

Shocked they haven't been spending money like crazy on advertising the past couple of days.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39646 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:32 am to
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Shocked they haven't been spending money like crazy on advertising the past couple of days.


Ya, if there was any time to burn some cash, this is it.
Posted by BeachDude022
Premium Elite Platinum TD Member
Member since Dec 2006
34979 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:37 am to
Lyft saved our arse on nye In Austin. What a shame it's leaving
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29123 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:39 am to
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Texas' very large and liberal cities as a whole are becoming increasingly backwards with their stance on Uber & Lyft.




This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 10:39 am
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22782 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:43 am to
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Texas' very large and liberal cities as a whole are becoming increasingly backwards with their stance on Uber & Lyft.


Unfortunately, it's not just the cities...

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Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said that Tesla Motors Inc. shouldn’t expect to open Lone Star state sales outlets any time soon.

Tesla has been trying for two years to crack the nation’s second-largest automobile market. It has been stymied by a powerful dealership lobby that opposes allowing the company to sell its electric cars directly to consumers.


We like free market policies...sometimes.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8311 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:46 am to
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We like free market policies...sometimes.
When those policies' lobbyists fund their lavish vacations.
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6234 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:58 am to
CO passed a state law authorizing, supporting, and regulating rideshare companies. Uber and Lyft have been thriving here for a while now. They're required to do criminal history checks.

LINK

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A TNC driver must be at least 21 years old, possess a valid driver’s license, proof of auto insurance, and proof of Colorado vehicle registration. The TNC is also required to conduct safety inspections of all prospective drivers’ vehicles before approving them, as well as, conduct a criminal history check. The company is also required to obtain a permit from the public utilities commission, and the permit is only valid for one year.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 10:59 am
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15964 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:13 am to
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We like free market policies...sometimes.


Texas gives zero fricks about free markets
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12426 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:16 am to
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The insane taxi lobby is strong


Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:20 am to
The issue came down to this, for everyone I know in Austin:

"New York and Houston have requirements for fingerprinting and background checks, but Uber still does business there, so why should Austin allow itself to be bullied? Because we're much smaller? Well then, **** them!"

I don't think that outside commentators understand just how it was perceived here in Austin. It wasn't so much the essence of the issue itself. It wasn't about the rational arguments for or against fingerprinting and background checks in the end. It was about New York and Houston having them and Uber telling Austin "Screw you, you're small and we'll tell you what you'll do." It ended up being a David vs. Goliath thing where Austinites were insulted and got their backs up about it.

The amount of money they were spending just made people madder and turned neutral people against them. They should have picked a different city to make their stand. Austin may be "liberal", for Texas, but it's still in Texas, and people here have that pride thing and that desire to tell someone off, just because. Uber triggered that here. Somewhere else with less of a rebel streak would have been a better choice.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 11:25 am
Posted by Dan
Austin
Member since Dec 2006
2454 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:28 am to
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Why in the hell do they not fingerprint and background check their drivers


Lost in all of the bullshite misinformation is that they do. their background and driving history is checked by Uber. They don't fingerprint.

The city government decided to step in and regulate.

Uber is safe and reliable, much more so than taxi companies who, yes, require fingerprinting. it is in Ubers best interest to provide safe service so that people continue to use uber and they can continue to make money. free market



Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60329 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:33 am to
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CO passed a state law authorizing, supporting, and regulating rideshare companies. Uber and Lyft have been thriving here for a while now. They're required to do criminal history checks.



I saw a proposal today to do the same in Texas in the state legislature. Hopefully it happens soon before they leave Houston
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127597 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:35 am to
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Lost in all of the bullshite misinformation is that they do. their background and driving history is checked by Uber. They don't fingerprint.


I have always said that their background checking process has given a chance for almost anybody to qualify for driving.
Posted by doublecutter
Hear & Their
Member since Oct 2003
6617 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:35 am to
Uber and Lyft both have a driver rating system. If a driver's rating falls below 4.5 or so out of 5, they will be deactivated as drivers.

Try rating a taxi driver. Ha! They don't give a crap about their rating.

I still don't see the big deal about fingerprinting though.
Posted by doublecutter
Hear & Their
Member since Oct 2003
6617 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:40 am to
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I have always said that their background checking process has given a chance for almost anybody to qualify for driving.


I know someone in NOLA that was rejected by Uber when a DUI from 2 years ago showed up on his record. He thought he could slide in under the radar and be approved. So Uber is checking records.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:46 am to
That's the thing, I would expect it to be in Uber and Lyft's policy to perform criminal background checks on all their drivers as a prescreen (just like any other employer out there).

My question is this, are all taxi drivers now required to be fingerprinted? Or is it going forward?
Posted by Geaux Piggins Geaux
Member since Aug 2015
724 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:50 am to
There were really no winners on either side of the debate. The ride share companies made it a "vote for us or we will kill these kittens" sorta mantra. If they positioned and advertised themselves as to why their background checks and proposed regulations trumped the Austin city council's proposal, I could have seen them winning. That's why I voted for their proposition.

But from the get-go, they acted like man babies and the advertising was annoyingly relentless (robo-texts, emails, flyers, Facebook ads, etc.). Granted, the city council here comprise mostly of dumb, bleeding-heart, big-government liberals, but they didn't get a lot of local sympathy, even for the ones voting for them.

If anything, this just opens up opportunities for other ride sharing apps to fill the void. They don't have the brand recognition of uber and lyft, but they can at least employ the drivers Uber and Lyft abandoned (which the whole reason they said they couldn't accept fingerprinting and permit fees was because they "cared" about their drivers).
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6544 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:52 am to
What a bunch of idiots.

Shows the commitment to public safety and free commerce.

I get there are bad apples, but everything involves choice. Uber has done a hell of a lot more good than bad for both safety and commerce.
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