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re: JBE drops the hammer
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't know where this fits in, but if it weren't for TOPS I would have never attended LSU. I probably would have had to go to Nicholls.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:30 pm to Lakeboy7
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it's an entitlement program for the middle class, a middle class that bitches about entitlement programs for the poor (EBT Cards, WIC, ect) and the rich/Corps (Film Credits, other credits).
Well at least those bitching about TOPS have some skin in the game because their tax dollars fund it. Unlike the other programs you listed that go to people that don't even pay taxes. I wouldn't bitch at all if that dipshit hadn't expanded Medicaid.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:31 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Are you fricking retarded? That is a waste of money. That is why tops is only open to students who go to public school. If you can afford private school you don't need tops.
Where did you get this from?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:31 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Earning Tops is not fricking HARD dumb arse.
it's about to be a bit harder
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:32 pm to The Sad Banana
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I don't know where this fits in, but if it weren't for TOPS I would have never attended LSU. I probably would have had to go to Nicholls.
if it weren't for TOPS i wouldn't have stayed in the 49th best state in the union for college, that's for damn sure
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:32 pm to CaptainJ47
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My guess is minority recipients will plunge.
So, it's merit based. Do the work and earn it; we have too many handouts already.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:33 pm to kingbob
I think that it should hinge more on GPA. Standardized tests are not always a good indicator. My daughter has over a 4.0 because of honors classes and has taken the ACT 3 times highest score is 24
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:33 pm to King George
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So you're saying that unless this kid gets a $10K/year education there's no way they're getting a 26 on the ACT?
That's not what I'm saying, and you know that's not what I'm saying.
You know as well as I do that a kid that goes to a high end private school has more access to the tools necessary to score high on standardized tests. This is an undeniable fact. If you put that same kid in a school that's underfunded, understaffed, and poorly managed he or she may not have ever made that high test score.
I'm not saying poor kids at poor schools can not score a 26, only that is it far less common when compared to private schools.
One of two things is happening here. Either we are failing our youth by cutting corners and not giving them a chance at education. Or rich kids are inherently smarter.
Which do you believe is more true?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:34 pm to DHS1997
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My daughter has over a 4.0 because of honors classes and has taken the ACT 3 times highest score is 24
i just can't wrap my head around these stories
what level of honors classes? is she in AP? what are her scores there?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:35 pm to Barf
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Either we are failing our youth by cutting corners and not giving them a chance at education. Or rich kids are inherently smarter.
Which do you believe is more true?
there is a clear 3rd option you ignored
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:36 pm to Jcorye1
Dumbest post I have ever seen on the OT
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:36 pm to foj1981
JBE is an idiot. He said LSU would not have football. Nuff said.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i just can't wrap my head around these stories
Meaning her score should be upper 20s or so?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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based on your argument, the entire program is a waste of money?
TOPS is a program meant to keep our top students in school here in LA (for a number of reasons), not populate open admissions colleges
Tops was an award program with very low requirements. That turned into a free year to play around in college for a bunch of people. Is it really an award if everyone nearly qualifies for it.
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what does need have to do with anything?
Why are we creating more of a burden on tax payers to give people who really don't need assistance paying for college free money?
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or let me throw this around. if you believe need is the basis, then our top unis need a higher level of student
It should be on a need basis. Would you give food stamps to someone who stays out of trouble, pays their taxes, volunteers on a regular basis, and could afford to pay for their own meals?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i just can't wrap my head around these stories
Just because someone has a 4.0 does not mean they are prepared for the ACT. The two are not directly related. Very few students score high only the ACT's without some sort of prep. It happens all the time. We can not continue to use the Will Hunting's of the world as the standard.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:37 pm to The Sad Banana
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don't know where this fits in, but if it weren't for TOPS I would have never attended LSU. I probably would have had to go to Nicholls.
I don't know where this fits in, but I went to both schools. LSU and Nicholls, never got TOPS, and remember the cost not being that big of a jump transferring to LSU.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:38 pm to GeauxMatt624
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Calc II, Thermodynamics, and Organic Chem
Pfftt, i took those during intercession. Simultaneously.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:38 pm to Deactived
a 24 is relatively weak for a "4.0 in honors" student. it's 74th percentile on the current test
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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there is a clear 3rd option you ignored
Oh?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:39 pm to Barf
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Just because someone has a 4.0 does not mean they are prepared for the ACT. The two are not directly related. Very few students score high only the ACT's without some sort of prep. It happens all the time. We can not continue to use the Will Hunting's of the world as the stan
I am pretty stupid and got a 27 on the act but since I am dyslexic I got use extended time
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