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re: Some of the specific cultural "issues" Mari Fuentes-Martin finds troubling...
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:29 am to Tigerbait357
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:29 am to Tigerbait357
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Problem with society, race, gender, religious beliefs should all be put aside. The person most qualified should be hired
This isn't how the world works anymore. Members from the LSU Office of Diversity now have sit in sessions with department officials when they're making new hires, in an effort to ensure that internal diversity quotas are being met.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:30 am to Cs
I'm confused as to the actual context of the list. What is it trying to say?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:32 am to Superior Pariah
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I'm confused as to the actual context of the list. What is it trying to say?
Students were polled as to what they think of when someone mentions "LSU Tailgating".
The list in the OP are some of the responses that Mari and the administration now have an issue with and want to change.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:33 am to Superior Pariah
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I'm confused as to the actual context of the list. What is it trying to say?
It looks like it may be the most common survey responses when asked about LSU tailgating.
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The list in the OP are some of the responses that Mari and the administration now have an issue with and want to change.
Did they really say they want to change that is is a tradition? Seems counter-intuitive.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 11:36 am
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:45 am to Cs
Hyphenated last name, first sighn of intolerance
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:50 am to Cs
'when you bring in social extremists,..that want to control behavior. '
The definition of politically correct!! And it's happening everywhere
The definition of politically correct!! And it's happening everywhere
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:52 am to Cs
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This isn't how the world works anymore. Members from the LSU Office of Diversity now have sit in sessions with department officials when they're making new hires, in an effort to ensure that internal diversity quotas are being met.
Are you serious?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:53 am to CyrustheVirus
As a Latino male who graduated from LSU last year, frick this worthless bitch.
fricking disgrace to my race.
I hope her dumbass gets the boot back to The University of Texas Pan American West College Station Middle School.
fricking disgrace to my race.
I hope her dumbass gets the boot back to The University of Texas Pan American West College Station Middle School.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:57 am to Guava Jelly
If your argument is that there is nothing more "illiberal" than modern day American Liberalism, we agree. If your argument is somehow that modern American liberalism is somehow the bastion of individual freedom and individual responsibility, you couldn't be more wrong.
The American Left took a wrong turn decades ago. It has now fully embraced Social Justice Warrior activism on our college campuses.And their control of these Institutions is now complete and they can behave as the arbiters of Individual morality and behavior with impunity. They are modern-day, finger-wagging MORALISTS-every bit as much as any Pentecostal preacher, except they have the full weight of The State behind them.
It may make you uncomfortable to connect the dots. But Social Justice Warrior Illiberalism is a dire threat to traditional perception of what the mission of college is,and our general way of life. It is modern American Liberalism (the precise opposite of the 18th Century American Liberalism that our country was founded on) that is currently working overtime to institute Speech Codes, safe spaces,and otherwise INFANTILIZE college students. American Conservatism has NOTHING to do with that except, screaming at these liberal wankers to quit destroying all our existing Institutions, principles, traditions and ideals.
I understand that some people discount anything that smells of ideology because they are sick of The Culture Wars, but for frick's sakes-this has the fingerprints of the Social Justice Warrior Left all over it. And every year they grind down college students a little bit more, to the point that many of our best Universities have been reduced to shrill and hysterical breeding grounds of illiberal, close-minded shite-stirrers who are far like modern-day Salem with-hunters, rooting out "evil" under every fricking rock. And now that rock has extended to LSU tailgating. Everything about this IS political. This IS Left-wing strident moralist politics. Just because you don't want it to be about Leftist politics, doesn't mean that's exactly what this is. This is standard edition SJW, do-gooder-bullshite, and fully compatible in every way with their disastrous Cultural Marxist bullshite. frick them and frick anybody who gives them cover.
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The American Left took a wrong turn decades ago. It has now fully embraced Social Justice Warrior activism on our college campuses.And their control of these Institutions is now complete and they can behave as the arbiters of Individual morality and behavior with impunity. They are modern-day, finger-wagging MORALISTS-every bit as much as any Pentecostal preacher, except they have the full weight of The State behind them.
It may make you uncomfortable to connect the dots. But Social Justice Warrior Illiberalism is a dire threat to traditional perception of what the mission of college is,and our general way of life. It is modern American Liberalism (the precise opposite of the 18th Century American Liberalism that our country was founded on) that is currently working overtime to institute Speech Codes, safe spaces,and otherwise INFANTILIZE college students. American Conservatism has NOTHING to do with that except, screaming at these liberal wankers to quit destroying all our existing Institutions, principles, traditions and ideals.
I understand that some people discount anything that smells of ideology because they are sick of The Culture Wars, but for frick's sakes-this has the fingerprints of the Social Justice Warrior Left all over it. And every year they grind down college students a little bit more, to the point that many of our best Universities have been reduced to shrill and hysterical breeding grounds of illiberal, close-minded shite-stirrers who are far like modern-day Salem with-hunters, rooting out "evil" under every fricking rock. And now that rock has extended to LSU tailgating. Everything about this IS political. This IS Left-wing strident moralist politics. Just because you don't want it to be about Leftist politics, doesn't mean that's exactly what this is. This is standard edition SJW, do-gooder-bullshite, and fully compatible in every way with their disastrous Cultural Marxist bullshite. frick them and frick anybody who gives them cover.
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:06 pm to Alt26
I love LSU tailgating and the culture of LSU football, but I think what people are missing here is that this measure pertains to LSU Student affiliated organization's tailgating. If an official student group recognized by the university is having a formally sponsored event on campus, then there are rules that must be followed (many of them stupid, but none-the-less). I don't think this has anything to do with Biff and few friends informally tailgating by the greek theater. They could be busted for underage drinking...but it's officially promoted events by student organizations who are serving alcohol that this is addressing. If the event is registered and affiliated with a student organization then that opens the university to liability. With over 50 cases of medical emergencies for alcohol poisoning of students at these events, it's just a matter of time before there is a death and LSU gets sued to hell and back. As usual, LSU blew it in the way they presented it and has now turned this into a PR disaster.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:10 pm to lsursb
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I love LSU tailgating and the culture of LSU football, but I think what people are missing here is that this measure pertains to LSU Student affiliated organization's tailgating. If an official student group recognized by the university is having a formally sponsored event on campus, then there are rules that must be followed (many of them stupid, but none-the-less). I don't think this has anything to do with Biff and few friends informally tailgating by the greek theater. They could be busted for underage drinking...but it's officially promoted events by student organizations who are serving alcohol that this is addressing. If the event is registered and affiliated with a student organization then that opens the university to liability. With over 50 cases of medical emergencies for alcohol poisoning of students at these events, it's just a matter of time before there is a death and LSU gets sued to hell and back. As usual, LSU blew it in the way they presented it and has now turned this into a PR disaster.
1. this is addressed to fraternities. There is no hiding that.
2. If that is the issue (mitigation), then address the university students as adults and tell them that.
3. You are correct. this has been completely mishandled. If their intent is truly public safety, it nows come off as a hidden agenda (money) because of the way it has been presented.
4. That presentation aid is awful and she will be torn a new one for it.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:10 pm to Cs
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:13 pm to Jumbo_Gumbo
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Mari Fuentes-Martin
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This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:21 pm to Cs
One might suggest that there's only one way to respond here if you're regular tailgaters. Call the bluff.
For the first home game, what if people do EXACTLY what they ALWAYS DO en masse?
Imagine campus officials trying to move around thousands of tents, couches, kegs. Or confiscate thousands of "disallowed" items. Or arrest 20,000 people.
For the first home game, what if people do EXACTLY what they ALWAYS DO en masse?
Imagine campus officials trying to move around thousands of tents, couches, kegs. Or confiscate thousands of "disallowed" items. Or arrest 20,000 people.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:27 pm to Cs
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Mari Fuentes-Martin
Poor Mr Martin.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:33 pm to uway
quote:Are we even sure there is a Mr. Martin?
Poor Mr Martin.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:59 pm to geaux.home
the cultural tone-deafness of the administration on how this issue was presented pegs the stupidity meter...you can't even spell tiger-baiting correctly!!!
if I'm Mari whatever the hell her name is, I'd better be looking for a new job...
tailgating as it exists at LSU today is as much an issue of logistics and transportation as it is an excuse to have a party...
using this gameday photograph from around 1960...the stadium capacity was a bit over 68,000 and you were able to park within 1/2 mile of the stadium easily...
also notice all the buses parked in the West Stadium lot as well as the passenger train on the siding that was by old Alex Box...
additionally, you used to be able to take buses from downtown Baton Rouge down Nicholson and they would drop you off at the stadium...
when I got to LSU in the early 1970's you used to be able to pick up your date at 3:30, go out to dinner and get back in time for kickoff...you try doing that today!!!
since the drinking age was 18, fraternities could have alcohol in their houses and they had pre and post game parties there...
anyway, Tiger Stadium now seats over 100,000 with fewer parking places and mass transit options to get to campus...then you have the Alleva cluster-f*** of on-campus access which compounds the problems where basically you have to get to campus at least 6 hours before kickoff if you want to be able to park
if I'm Mari whatever the hell her name is, I'd better be looking for a new job...
tailgating as it exists at LSU today is as much an issue of logistics and transportation as it is an excuse to have a party...
![](https://oralhistory.blogs.lib.lsu.edu/files/2013/10/Folder-23-Tiger-Stadium-aerial-c.png)
using this gameday photograph from around 1960...the stadium capacity was a bit over 68,000 and you were able to park within 1/2 mile of the stadium easily...
also notice all the buses parked in the West Stadium lot as well as the passenger train on the siding that was by old Alex Box...
additionally, you used to be able to take buses from downtown Baton Rouge down Nicholson and they would drop you off at the stadium...
when I got to LSU in the early 1970's you used to be able to pick up your date at 3:30, go out to dinner and get back in time for kickoff...you try doing that today!!!
since the drinking age was 18, fraternities could have alcohol in their houses and they had pre and post game parties there...
anyway, Tiger Stadium now seats over 100,000 with fewer parking places and mass transit options to get to campus...then you have the Alleva cluster-f*** of on-campus access which compounds the problems where basically you have to get to campus at least 6 hours before kickoff if you want to be able to park
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:10 pm to RUKidding
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What's the big deal? Tailgating is for all ages.
even our (at the time) Senators join in
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