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Double amputee wins Alabama state wrestling title, with a record of 37-0
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:05 am
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:05 am
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Pelham wrestler Hasaan Hawthorne is unbeaten this season and won the Alabama 6A state title at 145 pounds.
That would be impressive enough, but then consider that Hawthorne is a double amputee who was born without tibias.
Hawthorne, a senior, outpointed Southside-Gadsden’s Landon Thompson in the title match Saturday in Huntsville to run his record to 37-0. He was named the state championship meet’s Most Valuable Wrestler in 6A.
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:15 am to Kujo
I've said this before, and I know it probably makes me look like an arse, but I believe he has an unfair advantage by not having legs. It means his upper body can be much bigger and stronger than everyone else's.
I know how stupid that sounds, but it's just what I believe.
I know how stupid that sounds, but it's just what I believe.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:16 am to Kujo
Could it be argued that the lack of legs and subsequent shift in center of gravity might actually create an advantage for him?
ETA: I know absolutely nothing about wrestling, I'm legitimately asking
ETA: I know absolutely nothing about wrestling, I'm legitimately asking
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 9:20 am
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:18 am to Dawgsontop34
He has advantages and disadvantages. For example:
A) He has no legs for opponents to grab when grappling.
B) He has no legs with which to gain leverage on his opponents.
Considering how much stronger legs are than the upper body. I would say he is over all at a disadvantage.
A) He has no legs for opponents to grab when grappling.
B) He has no legs with which to gain leverage on his opponents.
Considering how much stronger legs are than the upper body. I would say he is over all at a disadvantage.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:22 am to VaBamaMan
quote:
He has advantages and disadvantages. For example:
A) He has no legs for opponents to grab when grappling.
B) He has no legs with which to gain leverage on his opponents.
Considering how much stronger legs are than the upper body. I would say he is over all at a disadvantage.
In absolute terms, he has a disadvantage. Pound for pound, he probably has an advantage. He is not going against wrestlers with comparable upper body strength to him.
Also, I would think he has a huge preparation advantage. He trains and perfects his technique against guys who are a lot more similar to what he competes against. Hard for his competition to adjust to him when 100% of the technique and training they have was targeted at an opponent with legs.
I don't think its an unfair advantage. No different than a basketball player being tall. His natural body is just good for the sport of wrestling IMO.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:29 am to HempHead
This is absolutely awesome.
He had to absolutely bust his arse just to even be in this position.
I don't see it as any more of an advantage or disadvantage.
It all equals out.
Very happy for him. He is definitely someone others can look to for inspiration.
He had to absolutely bust his arse just to even be in this position.
I don't see it as any more of an advantage or disadvantage.
It all equals out.
Very happy for him. He is definitely someone others can look to for inspiration.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:37 am to Yunel Escobar
quote:Odds are that's probably not true. If I had to guess, I'd say he has an unfair advantage.
It all equals out
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:39 am to ReauxlTide222
Well I'll be the first to say congrats. I'm happy for the kid instead of trying to knock his "advantage"
frick y'all
frick y'all
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:43 am to Bama and Beer
Nobody has "knocked" anything.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:01 am to Kujo
I watched a couple of his matches and it looks like where he has the advantage is the pads that he wears on his stubs. They have some grip on the bottom. The people he competes againts have to go down on their knees or get low and they dont have the grip on that mat like he does.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:08 am to Bama and Beer
quote:
Well I'll be the first to say congrats. I'm happy for the kid instead of trying to knock his "advantage"
I wasn't knocking him at all. I simply replied to someone to point out that there are both advantages and disadvantages. Since he was concentrating on the advantages.
I married a woman who was born missing most of her right arm, it end about halfway down the elbow. I respect this kid immensely. Simultaneously, having seen my wife, and knowing what she is capable of, I know that those missing limbs can accomplish much more than we think. My wife can do a fishbone braid in her hair for example, something 90% of women can't do with 2 hands. I have no problem talking about the mechanics of his technique, mainly because he wouldn't himself. I can guarantee He doesn't want to be approached with kid gloves.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:10 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
If I had to guess, I'd say he has an unfair advantage.
Unfair?
This isn't the bladerunner with springs on his feet.
You can argue advantage or disadvantage. ... but there is nothing "unfair" about this
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:16 am to Mr.Perfect
quote:You might be right.
Unfair?
This isn't the bladerunner with springs on his feet.
You can argue advantage or disadvantage. ... but there is nothing "unfair" about this
Might not though...I'm not too sure.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:17 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
You might be right.
Might not though...I'm not too sure.
sounds like my wife Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:22 am to diat150
There is no grip and those things fall off a lot and he just throws them aside and keeps going. He only started wearing those this year due to issues he was having with his nubbs.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:22 am to HempHead
I probably don't know any more about wrestling than you do, but there have been other double amputee wrestlers like him in the past that I have heard about. It may be jealous, poor loser parents, but it seems to be common for parents to file complaints that it is an unfair advantage. Even if it is something of an advantage, I personally think it is bull shite to complain about. It's just a feature that he has, and it's inspiring that he found a way to make it work for him.
When I played football a lot of other players were a lot stronger and faster than me. That was an advantage too for them, but you won't see anyone filing a complaint about that.
When I played football a lot of other players were a lot stronger and faster than me. That was an advantage too for them, but you won't see anyone filing a complaint about that.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:23 am to Kujo
You couldn't just run around in a circle, and jump on his back?
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:30 am to TheSexecutioner
quote:
I don't think its an unfair advantage. No different than a basketball player being tall. His natural body is just good for the sport of wrestling IMO.
+1
Exactly.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:51 am to Mr.Perfect
quote:
sounds like my wife
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:52 am to Peazey
Kyle Maynard is a quadruple amputee and is in the national wrestling hall of fame and climbed Mt. Killimanjaro without any assistance of prosthetics.
He won 36 matches his senior year in high school - so this story is not unheard of.
He won 36 matches his senior year in high school - so this story is not unheard of.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 10:54 am
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