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Who is more delusional, Southern Miss or Bama?
Posted on 11/27/07 at 8:23 am
Posted on 11/27/07 at 8:23 am
We all have hundreds of examples of Bammer delusion, which is legendary. But Southern Miss has NEVER filled their 36k seat stadium yet they are adding 10k more seats. They just fired their most successful coach who has a better record in the last 10 years than Ole Piss and Moo St. They will never play for a NC without being in a BCS conference and an at large bid would be next to impossible because they schedule brutal OOC opponents.
WTF??
WTF??
Posted on 11/27/07 at 9:34 am to Don Corleone
I am a Southern Miss grad. I was there back in the mid-late 90's when we won 3 conference championships in 4 years and went to the Liberty Bowl twice. We were consistently ranked in the Top 25, almost breaking through to the Top 10 in 2000. Since 2000, we've won one conference championship.
No one at Southern Miss expects to compete for the NC or even for a BCS bid. The level of our conference would never allow for it. We understand that. However, there is no reason we shouldn't be dominating the conference right now. The conference lost the most competitive teams we had - Louisville, Cincy, USF, etc. There is NO reason a team that was able to consistently win when the conference was competitive should be losing to the likes of Rice and UCF. Right now, all we want is to be able to dominate the conference and pull out the occasional upset against a tough OOC opponent (Bower has beat LSU, Alabama, Georgia, and Nebraska to name a few).
As much as I appreciate everything Bower has done, we are in a rut. Our offense is horribly inconsistent and the prevent defense has become his specialty. Bringing in someone with a fresh perspective and a lot to prove could really invigorate the program and get us back to where we want to be: a consistent Top 25, consistent conference champion, and a potential spoiler for the tough OOC teams we play. That's it. No delusions of NC or BCS dancing in our heads.
I wish Bower all the best and I hope he finds much success wherever he goes. I am grateful for his loyalty and commitment to the program. It was just time for a fresh start for both Bower and the University.
One more thing:
I will admit our attendance is not the best - I blame the crappy conference teams on that - but we have had many sellouts and near sellouts through the years. It's a bit severe to say we've NEVER filled our stadium.
If we ever want to bring the bigger schools to play in our house, we have to make room for them.
No one at Southern Miss expects to compete for the NC or even for a BCS bid. The level of our conference would never allow for it. We understand that. However, there is no reason we shouldn't be dominating the conference right now. The conference lost the most competitive teams we had - Louisville, Cincy, USF, etc. There is NO reason a team that was able to consistently win when the conference was competitive should be losing to the likes of Rice and UCF. Right now, all we want is to be able to dominate the conference and pull out the occasional upset against a tough OOC opponent (Bower has beat LSU, Alabama, Georgia, and Nebraska to name a few).
As much as I appreciate everything Bower has done, we are in a rut. Our offense is horribly inconsistent and the prevent defense has become his specialty. Bringing in someone with a fresh perspective and a lot to prove could really invigorate the program and get us back to where we want to be: a consistent Top 25, consistent conference champion, and a potential spoiler for the tough OOC teams we play. That's it. No delusions of NC or BCS dancing in our heads.
I wish Bower all the best and I hope he finds much success wherever he goes. I am grateful for his loyalty and commitment to the program. It was just time for a fresh start for both Bower and the University.
One more thing:
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Southern Miss has NEVER filled their 36k seat stadium yet they are adding 10k more seats
I will admit our attendance is not the best - I blame the crappy conference teams on that - but we have had many sellouts and near sellouts through the years. It's a bit severe to say we've NEVER filled our stadium.
If we ever want to bring the bigger schools to play in our house, we have to make room for them.
Posted on 11/27/07 at 9:54 am to Don Corleone
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They just fired their most successful coach who has a better record in the last 10 years than Ole Piss and Moo St.
7-5 against the 118 ranked strength of schedule. What is everyone's hang-up with Bower? If he's so great, why doesn't anyone mention him for the LSU job?
In the weakest conference, he's manages one conference championship since Nix left. Nobody expects Southern Miss to compete for NCs, but they expect better. Bad schools can turn things around. LSU, Louisville, WV, Boise, Hawaii, Tx Tech, KY and Rutgers all turned their programs around with coaching changes.
Posted on 11/27/07 at 10:00 am to Anastasia Beaverhousen
As a Southern Miss alum born and raised in Hattiesburg, I couldn't agree with you more. It's easy for people who've not followed Southern Miss football or supported their program to say this is a dumb decision. I say "What took so long?".
I don't think Southern Miss is delusional at all, and I think Anastasia Beaverhausen summed it up perfectly.
Go Eagles!
I don't think Southern Miss is delusional at all, and I think Anastasia Beaverhausen summed it up perfectly.
Go Eagles!
Posted on 11/27/07 at 10:02 am to skc4lsu
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skc4lsu
I just tried to call you. Don't try to tell me you were washing your hair. I know you don't do that before noon.
Posted on 11/27/07 at 10:04 am to Anastasia Beaverhousen
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likes of Rice and UCF
Sorry, but Rice and UCF are not in the same category. You losing to UCF is not all that shameful. They only have the best running back in the country and coach O'Leary has experience at a big time school. UCF is on the way up and is a very large and growing school with much more resources than dare I say at USM. You should not be feeling horrible because you lost to them. Southern Miss is in fact delusional to be doing what they are doing (firing Bower, adding 10,000 seats to an empty stadium.)
Posted on 11/27/07 at 10:05 am to go ta hell ole miss
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What is everyone's hang-up with Bower? If he's so great, why doesn't anyone mention him for the LSU job?
Exactly. I don't see any of these folks passing judgement on his firing bringing him up for their open positions. I think the message is that we, as Southern Miss fans, should be happy with mediocrity, but other schools (SEC especially) can expect a conference championship every year with a big bowl game.
Apparently, we should be tickled pink with a 7-5 season and the papajohns.com bowl.
Posted on 11/27/07 at 10:07 am to Anastasia Beaverhousen
Well...
Southern Miss has as many wins against LSU as Bama does in the last 5 seasons!!!!!!!
Southern Miss has as many wins against LSU as Bama does in the last 5 seasons!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 11/27/07 at 10:08 am
Posted on 11/27/07 at 10:09 am to otowntiger
I don't think it's anything personal against UCF; they are a decent program and certainly a good addition to the conference. More to the point, it's the expectation of beating conference opponents consistently, like we used to. The only losses we used to have were to big program teams (Nebraska, Alabama, etc).
Posted on 11/27/07 at 10:14 am to otowntiger
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They only have the best running back in the conference
Fixed it for you
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much more resources than dare I say at USM.
Just about every school in Div 1 has more resources than USM
quote:
Southern Miss is in fact delusional to be doing what they are doing (firing Bower, adding 10,000 seats to an empty stadium.)
There's nothing delusional about wanting to improve your program and aspire to more than 6-7 win seasons and papajohns.com bowls.
Posted on 11/27/07 at 10:25 am to Anastasia Beaverhousen
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They only have the best running back in the conference
No, he is the leading rusher in the country. UCF has much more resources than USM and my point was, you should not be so upset at losing to a UCF team/program that is on the rise and has a much better chance at success than USM.
This post was edited on 11/27/07 at 10:26 am
Posted on 11/27/07 at 10:42 am to otowntiger
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you should not be so upset at losing to a UCF team/program that is on the rise
I am more upset at the overall performances of the season and the past few seasons. It's nothing personal against UCF. I agree with skc4lsu that UCF is a great addition to the conference; one of the few.
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has a much better chance at success than USM
We have already proven that we can be successful - even with our limited resources. Though Bower is the one who brought that success, he has been on a decline since 2000 and I have no doubt that with the right person, we can be right back up there again.
Good luck in the Championship Game!
Posted on 11/27/07 at 11:38 am to Anastasia Beaverhousen
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Good luck in the Championship Game
Thanks! geaux knights!
Geaux Eagles!
This post was edited on 11/27/07 at 11:39 am
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