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re: How many here make their living in the oil field?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:12 am to Brazos
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:12 am to Brazos
quote:Me
How many here make their living in the oil field?
quote:How does it make you feel that Schlumberger's CEO was paid $18MM last year while the company laid off 25k people?
I work in the oil field and I can honestly say I'm officially getting really nervous now. My company had very little overhead and sustained this bust for as long as they could but now we are about to get hit with a significant pay cut. Before the truck nut jokes come flying in let it be known that I do not own a F250 or a set of truck nuts. I just live a normal, modest life with a wife and children.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:42 am to Brazos
i am...I had to lay off four people here in my office last week
These are not oil field cash folk, just middle class $50,000 a year guys with families that I had to let go.
me and other managers have to take a 10% pay cut to stay aboard
These are not oil field cash folk, just middle class $50,000 a year guys with families that I had to let go.
me and other managers have to take a 10% pay cut to stay aboard
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:51 am to ForeverLSU02
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How does it make you feel that Schlumberger's CEO was paid $18MM last year while the company laid off 25k people?
Could only keep 360 people at 50k excluding burdens and benefits for 18MM
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:16 pm to ForeverLSU02
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How does it make you feel that Schlumberger's CEO was paid $18MM last year while the company laid off 25k people?
A lot better than it does when I think of people who get welfare or other entitlements for not doing shite.
Or when I think of Leo Dicaprio getting millions for making a movie
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:19 pm to Salmon
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but whatever happens in the oil field, great affects my living. I'm 95% sure I'm safe. But that 5% scares me enough to cause me to not want to spend any money right now.
Im basically in the same boat as you. Good luck.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:29 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
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quote:downstream Not so fast my friend. LINK You want to see a true litmus test for an oil crash, watch refining. Refining is finally starting to see the effects of this downturn, with several companies laying off contractors and squeezing their budgets. To me, this is very concerning in regards to a true incoming crash. Keep watching refining, because if they can't make money, no one does.
I'm in refining projects and we have not been hit nearly like upstream. Still have a lot of projects ongoing and planned for next 5 years.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:31 pm to JasonL79
For the people out of work, there is still a lot of downstream work going on throughout the country. Especially around Lake Charles right now.
We picked up a few experienced people from upstream on our projects. They all had to take paycuts but it beats being unemployed.
We picked up a few experienced people from upstream on our projects. They all had to take paycuts but it beats being unemployed.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:35 pm to Capt.Pelican
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Capt.Pelican
3/4 of my fellow Mariners have been laid off at my company.
I have a lead on a couole Captains job with a master of towing with red flag exp. If you know anyone that may be interested.
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:36 pm to JasonL79
I don't know who you work for, but just about every major refiner has had their margins squeezed, worth some even starting to see losses.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:43 pm to Capt.Pelican
I graduate from TMA in 2018 so hopefully it turns around by then. Really don't want to go blue water
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:43 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
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I don't know who you work for, but just about every major refiner has had their margins squeezed, worth some even starting to see losses.
I'm on the major project side so we don't get too involved in the operations side.
I'm sure there is some margin squeezing going on but we still have a lot of projects planned. That could change if it gets worse on the refining end I'm sure but I haven't heard anything on that from my end yet.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:45 pm to JasonL79
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I'm in refining projects and we have not been hit nearly like upstream. Still have a lot of projects ongoing and planned for next 5 years.
Yeah...the schedulers I speak with daily haven't stopped a bit in terms of throughput through their facilities.
Marathon and Lyondell are both dumping billions of dollars into improvements into their Gulf Coast facilities.
Valero just increased their dividend and posted an 860 million dollar earnings number for Q4.
About the only marked difference I see is I'm not loading as many distillate vessels for export this winter compared to last.
The pipelines are still running, you can't find a damn tank for lease, and midstream projects haven't slowed either.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:47 pm to ForeverLSU02
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How does it make you feel that Schlumberger's CEO was paid $18MM last year while the company laid off 25k people?
What should he do, take a 10 million dollar pay cut and lay off 24,900 instead of 25,000?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:51 pm to Brazos
I work IT for a oilfield service co. I was working for a Corporate IT group, but working out of the current service company's office. My position with the corporate group got cut out, service company hired me without any delay. I didn't lose any time served, kept all my vacay. I hope this lasts, because things are pretty tight here. They have really good Mgmt here, and their financials are taken care of well, but at some point, the bubble might bust. I just hope I can ride the wave. I don't want to be looking for an IT job in the lafayette area right now.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:55 pm to Sun God
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I had to transfer to Midland.
Which could be worse than getting laid off.
What's going on in Midland, I have seen our facility there hire a few people, and during times like this, is very very odd.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:38 pm to Brazos
Best of luck to you guys in that industry! Tough times indeed.
No trolling but what would you say is the single biggest contributor to the crisis in the industry? Crude prices?
No trolling but what would you say is the single biggest contributor to the crisis in the industry? Crude prices?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:39 pm to Hogwarts
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No trolling but what would you say is the single biggest contributor to the crisis in the industry?
More supply than demand.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:58 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
This isn't hitting the refineries b/c of the price per barrel it's more tied to having excess inventories due to a mild winter. NG companies saw the same thing a couple of years ago.
The article also references the big oil conglomerates whose profits typically come from the upstream side of the business. The point of the article is the excess inventory is another blow to the majors bottomline since the refineries are their "safety" net.
The independent refiners such as Marathon or Valero, aren't tied to the upstream side of the business are doing quite well right now b/c the frac spread. They are able to buy up a surplus of cheap domestically produced crude and sell at global price for refined products. Now that export ban on crude has been lifted this advantage for local refineries will slowly go away.
Refineries have always operated on pretty thin margins. The politicians and the media have us believe that the record profits are posted by oil companies were b/c we are being gouged at the pumps when in actuality during these times the refineries margins are getting squeezed and the profits are coming from the upstream side of the business.
The article also references the big oil conglomerates whose profits typically come from the upstream side of the business. The point of the article is the excess inventory is another blow to the majors bottomline since the refineries are their "safety" net.
The independent refiners such as Marathon or Valero, aren't tied to the upstream side of the business are doing quite well right now b/c the frac spread. They are able to buy up a surplus of cheap domestically produced crude and sell at global price for refined products. Now that export ban on crude has been lifted this advantage for local refineries will slowly go away.
Refineries have always operated on pretty thin margins. The politicians and the media have us believe that the record profits are posted by oil companies were b/c we are being gouged at the pumps when in actuality during these times the refineries margins are getting squeezed and the profits are coming from the upstream side of the business.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:05 pm to CHEDBALLZ
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with a master of towing with red flag exp. If you know anyone that may be interested.
Thanks CHEDBALLZ but we are a OSV supply/crew boat company. A lot of us are thinking about going inland though. It seems like those guys haven't been hit as hard as we have.
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