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Apple already unlocked 70 other iPhones for feds
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:43 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:43 am
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Apple CEO Tim Cook declared on Wednesday that his companywouldn’t comply with a government search warrant to unlock an iPhone used by one of the San Bernardinokillers, a significant escalation in a long-running debate between technology companies and the government over access to people’s electronically-stored private information.
But in a similar case in New York last year, Apple acknowledged that it could extract such data if it wanted to. And according to prosecutors in that case, Apple has unlocked phones for authorities at least 70 times since 2008. (Apple doesn’t dispute this figure.)
In other words, Apple’s stance in the San Bernardino case may not be quite the principled defense that Cook claims it is. In fact, it may have as much to do with public relations as it does with warding off what Cook called “an unprecedented step which threatens the security of our customers.”
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This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 7:44 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:48 am to CAD703X
Hasn't it been said, many times already, that the security measures are OS dependent? And that older iOS versions don't have the same encryptions/securities as the new ones?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:53 am to CAD703X
Were these iPhones encrypted like current-gen iPhones?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:53 am to CAD703X
Hey we just gonna say we won't give you private data from our customers for good PR, but here take this plain envelop with plain paper in it.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:56 am to CFDoc
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Hasn't it been said, many times already, that the security measures are OS dependent? And that older iOS versions don't have the same encryptions/securities as the new ones?
Yes it has but the op is an idiot.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:56 am to CFDoc
quote:
Hasn't it been said, many times already, that the security measures are OS dependent? And that older iOS versions don't have the same encryptions/securities as the new ones?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:57 am to crimsonsaint
quote:While that is true, I enjoy watching people with very little knowledge on a topic argue with people with a lot of knowledge on a topic. Makes for an entertaining one-sided beatdown.
Yes it has but the op is an idiot.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 7:58 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:00 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Didn't y'all try to explain to the ignorant masses twenty times in the last thread that this isn't about unlocking the passcode but rather disabling the ten tries before reset feature? They basically want Apple to disable the phones security system.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:01 am to jbgleason
quote:Yes.
Didn't y'all try to explain to the ignorant masses twenty times in the last thread that this isn't about unlocking the passcode but rather disabling the ten tries before reset feature? They basically want Apple to disable the phones security system.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature."
ETA: When it comes to home thermostats and light bulbs, CAD is the man. But he is clearly out of his element with this topic.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 8:08 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:44 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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But he is clearly out of his element with this topic.
Nah, he's just an Apple troll. He is (presumably) intelligent enough to discern the difference between bypassing old security measures in certain circumstances to comply with legal orders and creating a new firmware that has a built-in backdoor that gives the government carte blanche for any and all phones.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:51 am to CAD703X
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:53 am to CFDoc
quote:EXACTLY. This is a new encryption style with iOS 9
Hasn't it been said, many times already, that the security measures are OS dependent? And that older iOS versions don't have the same encryptions/securities as the new ones?
ETA: I'll post the link again
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 8:55 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:56 am to MrSmith
It's an older 5c which doesn't have hardware security enclave
But hey don't let that detail get in the way of a good rant
But hey don't let that detail get in the way of a good rant
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 9:03 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:02 am to CAD703X
Apple isnt saying they are unwilling to help. They are saying they arent writing a flaw into their OS for the sake of defeating security.
Im not apple fanboy but they are right here
Im not apple fanboy but they are right here
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:04 am to gmrkr5
Curious what exactly Apple did the other 80 times they broke into iPhones for the feds.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 9:05 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:05 am to CAD703X
Yeah, which would prevent them from side loading the new operating system like is being requested. It doesn't have the enclave, which is the entire reason they would be able to load this modified version onto the phone. The whole point is that they do not want to create this new version
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:08 am to CAD703X
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It doesn't have the enclave
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:10 am to CAD703X
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70 times since 2008
Which means what since 2008 is only a year after first gen iPhones were released? Apple has helped them get into a bunch of iPhone 3's and you think that's no different given the newer phone's much more powerful security? Do you realize you just skewered your own argument by displaying your ignorance? Give it up kid, you aren't smart enough.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:11 am to MrSmith
So how would this differ from the other times they assisted the FBI?
Still trying to understand since it's just software.
Still trying to understand since it's just software.
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