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Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:15 am to CAD703X
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At issue is the improved iPhone encryption built into iOS 8. For the first time, all the important data on your phone—photos, messages, contacts, reminders, call history—are encrypted by default. Nobody but you can access the iPhone’s contents, unless your passcode is compromised, something you can make nearly impossible by changing your settings to replace your four-digit PIN with an alphanumeric password
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The issue for law enforcement is that, as with all strong crypto, the encryption on the iPhone is secure even from the maker of the device. Apple itself can’t access your files, which means, unlike in the past, the company can’t help law enforcement officials access your files, even if presented with a valid search warrant.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 9:21 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:16 am to CAD703X
New (and better) encryption on the newer iOS. I believe even iOS 8.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:16 am to CAD703X
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Curious what exactly Apple did the other 80 times they broke into iPhones for the feds.
these were older phones that did not have the same level of encryption coded into iOS. they didnt have to write a bug to help, which is what they would have to do now.
you really dont know what your talking about
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:18 am to CAD703X
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So how would this differ from the other times they assisted the FBI?
Still trying to understand since it's just software.
This version of the software was made with no back doors. FBI wants Apple to essentially show them how to reverse engineer an iphone.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:18 am to gmrkr5
quote:You could repeat that, literally, 100 more times, and he will ask the same question.
these were older phones that did not have the same level of encryption coded into iOS
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:19 am to CAD703X
It's been 2 days now and people still don't get that they haven't done what the FBI wants them to do yet?
In Tim Cook's open letter he mentions he has given the FBI info before and many other times. Apple has not given a universal encryption key circumvention that undermines the entire security of iOS and anyone with an iPad/iPhone.
That is what the feds want. The feds want apple to develop a universal backdoor, custom firmware that can be retroactively put on any iOS device.
Apple has many times complied with subpoenas from the FBI for specific devices. This is an entirely different request and, makes this another non story. You can put your popcorn away.
In Tim Cook's open letter he mentions he has given the FBI info before and many other times. Apple has not given a universal encryption key circumvention that undermines the entire security of iOS and anyone with an iPad/iPhone.
That is what the feds want. The feds want apple to develop a universal backdoor, custom firmware that can be retroactively put on any iOS device.
Apple has many times complied with subpoenas from the FBI for specific devices. This is an entirely different request and, makes this another non story. You can put your popcorn away.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:19 am to CAD703X
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Still trying to understand since it's just software.
No you're not. You are as willfully ignorant as they get. If you were honest you'd have studied this issue and the fundamental hardware and software differences. At this point you are nothing more than a troll on this topic.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:24 am to Clames
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Whether the extraction would be successful depended on whether the phone was “in good working order,” Apple said, noting that the company hadn’t inspected the phone yet. But as a general matter, yes, Apple could crack the iPhone for the government. And, two technical experts told The Daily Beast, the company could do so with the phone used by deceased San Bernardino shooter, Syed Rizwan Farook, a model 5C. It was running version 9 of the operating system.
Still, Apple argued in the New York case, it shouldn’t have to, because “forcing Apple to extract data… absent clear legal authority to do so, could threaten the trust between Apple and its customers and substantially tarnish the Apple brand,” the company said, putting forth an argument that didn’t explain why it was willing to comply with court orders in other cases.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:26 am to CAD703X
Damn you are dense. The FBI doesn't just want the info from the phones (which Apple has said they would give if they had it). What the FBI wants is a key backdoor into the software going forward.
The FBI is using the public sentiment against these terrorists to try and force Apple to give them what they really want, which is a way to break into or monitor any iphone going forward.
The FBI is using the public sentiment against these terrorists to try and force Apple to give them what they really want, which is a way to break into or monitor any iphone going forward.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 9:27 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:27 am to CAD703X
Jesus christ man.... No one is saying apple cannot get around the encryption. They wont because it would require introducing a bug into the OS. If apple writes that bug its a matter of time before "hackers" figure out how to do it. Thats only 1 of the legitimate reasons not to do it.
you're an idiot
you're an idiot
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:29 am to CAD703X
If there is a proper search warrant and the ability is only given through the manufacturer then I don't have a problem with this.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:31 am to BigPerm30
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If there is a proper search warrant and the ability is only given through the manufacturer then I don't have a problem with this.
the "ability" doesn't exist
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:31 am to gmrkr5
So, 'Murica Conservitives want to force Apple to unlock the phones and allow the government to spy on people like Russia.
And The 'bad' Liberals like Hillary Clinton, support Apple, Google, and Microsoft, and believe in freedoms and say that we have the right to privacy?
And The 'bad' Liberals like Hillary Clinton, support Apple, Google, and Microsoft, and believe in freedoms and say that we have the right to privacy?
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 9:34 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:31 am to gmrkr5
So Apple can't side load an OS to this one device, reset the password then reinstall ios9 prior to handing it back to FBI?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:32 am to CAD703X
Isn't the FBI basically asking for Apple to give them the key so they do not have to ask Apple every time they want to get into a phone. Which means they could then get into every iPhone?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:32 am to CAD703X
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:34 am to CAD703X
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So Apple can't side load an OS to this one device, reset the password then reinstall ios9 prior to handing it back to FBI?
no, they cant. none of this works the way you think it does. how the frick is sideloading an OS going to affect the pin in another OS. You dont know how mobile OS works and you definitely dont know how encryption works.
you have to be trolling at this point. if not you are genuinely ignorant
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:35 am to Halftrack
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'bad' Liberals like Hillary Clinton, support Apple, Google, and Microsoft, and believe in freedoms and say that we have the right to privacy?
After Benghazi and her personal email server I can guarantee Hillary supports encryption and privacy.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:36 am to CAD703X
I thought you understood how encryption works?
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