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Knowing What we Know now, does Gavrilo Princip pull the Trigger?
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:21 pm
A little backstory on Gavrilo Princip. He was a Serbian national in what was then known as Austria-Hungary. Many Serbs absolutely hated the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Well Princip and roughly 20 men thought it would be a great idea to assassinate the Archduke of Austria-Hungary, Franz Ferdinand, when he and his wife were on a trip to Sarajevo. Long story short, they try to kill him on his parade route through the city and the plan goes awry; they fail. Princip is eating lunch at a diner and walks out and lo and behold, the Archduke is sitting in his vehicle right there when he walks out of the restaurant. Princip shoots and kills Franz Ferdinand, as well as his wife. Thus, setting in motion the events of WWI.
The German, Russian, Ottoman, and Austro-Hungarian Empires were all toppled due to this war; which really vaulted the entire world into its present day nations. It demolished the "old world" and put us into the "new world".
World War One pretty much wiped out an entire generation of Europe; as well as, set in motion the events that would kick off WWII.
Judging by present-day life, does Gavrilo Princip pull the trigger?
The German, Russian, Ottoman, and Austro-Hungarian Empires were all toppled due to this war; which really vaulted the entire world into its present day nations. It demolished the "old world" and put us into the "new world".
World War One pretty much wiped out an entire generation of Europe; as well as, set in motion the events that would kick off WWII.
Judging by present-day life, does Gavrilo Princip pull the trigger?
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 9:39 pm
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:23 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Would you prefer to be sodomized by Hitler or Princip, all things being equal?
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:24 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
knowing what we know now, we try to learn about and respect the nations and people of the middle east instead of drawing lines on a map and calling them countries irrespective of those consequences or where those lines are drawn.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:24 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Yep. I don't think he cared about the events that would ensue. I'm sure he knew that was a suicide mission.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:25 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:27 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Serbia was a sovereign state. The Austrians were just looking for a reason to go to war, as were the Russians, French, English and almost everyone else.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:28 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I remember the first time I listened to Dan Carlin
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:29 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
They memorialized his steps to the trigger point in Sarajevo, so I'm going to guess he would still pull it.
Maybe he'd wish the suicide attempt succeeded?
Maybe he'd wish the suicide attempt succeeded?
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:31 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Yeah, he knew what he was doing. The alliances were in motion, he was sent by the societies to be the spark
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:36 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Check out Dan Carlin's Hardcore History Blueprint for Armageddon
Posted on 2/10/16 at 10:22 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:
Judging by present-day life, does Gavrilo Princip pull the trigger?
Does he, hell yes! (I don't agree with that decision)
Objective=
Is Serbia a free independent country? Yes
Cause massive casualties for the Russians? Yes
Dead Russians
WWI=3,394,369
WWII= 8,806,453
Posted on 2/10/16 at 10:25 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Probably not. I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to start a world war.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 10:37 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Yes, Serbs are douchebags.
Signed,
Croatian
Signed,
Croatian
Posted on 2/11/16 at 7:27 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Paging Darth
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:22 am to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:
Judging by present-day life, does Gavrilo Princip pull the trigger?
That's a great question. The absolute truth of the matter is of course we'll never know. However, and this is just my own opinion based on what I know of the man, I think were he able to see the world that came as a result of his fateful pull of the trigger I think he'd still do it. I say this because of two things. First, he absolutely hated not only the Austro-Hungarian Empire, he hated all empires. Yes he was a "Serb Nationalist" as he himself professed. But in addition to this, much like all of his co-conspirators, he was also influenced by both Anarchist and even early Communist thinkers and writings. So in short, he was a man who wanted to watch the world burn because to him, the world as it was in 1914, was corrupt and he wanted to see the whole social system torn down and remade.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:22 am to TigerFanInSouthland
A general European ware had been brewing since the 1870's. Sarajevo was merely the trigger. If it hadn't started there, it would have started somewhere else.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:47 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Princip had TB, which was fatal back then. That's why the Black Hand picked him to carry out the assassination: he was a dead man, regardless.
The real issue here is that with the secret alliances, no one had anyway to know that they were about to unleash WWI. Nationalistic strife in the Balkans was nothing new and considering that the Serbs are still taking pot shots today, despite having full knowledge of what happened then, I'd say that Princip or the rest of them wouldn't have given two flying shits then.
The real issue here is that with the secret alliances, no one had anyway to know that they were about to unleash WWI. Nationalistic strife in the Balkans was nothing new and considering that the Serbs are still taking pot shots today, despite having full knowledge of what happened then, I'd say that Princip or the rest of them wouldn't have given two flying shits then.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:00 am to TigerFanInSouthland
World Warr was inevitable. Germany was looking for any excuse to attack France.
Serbia won big in WW1 as it happened with the creation of Yugoslavia compared to what Serbia was before the war
He would easily still do it
Serbia won big in WW1 as it happened with the creation of Yugoslavia compared to what Serbia was before the war
He would easily still do it
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/11/16 at 12:39 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:
A little backstory on Gavrilo Princip. He was a Serbian national in what was then known as Austria-Hungary. Many Serbs absolutely hated the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Well Princip and roughly 20 men thought it would be a great idea to assassinate the Archduke of Austria-Hungary, Franz Ferdinand, when he and his wife were on a trip to Sarajevo. Long story short, they try to kill him on his parade route through the city and the plan goes awry; they fail. Princip is eating lunch at a diner and walks out and lo and behold, the Archduke is sitting in his vehicle right there when he walks out of the restaurant. Princip shoots and kills Franz Ferdinand, as well as his wife. Thus, setting in motion the events of WWI.
The German, Russian, Ottoman, and Austro-Hungarian Empires were all toppled due to this war; which really vaulted the entire world into its present day nations. It demolished the "old world" and put us into the "new world".
World War One pretty much wiped out an entire generation of Europe; as well as, set in motion the events that would kick off WWII.
Judging by present-day life, does Gavrilo Princip pull the trigger?
Someone took notes in U.S. History class this morning. Congrats.
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