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re: Louisiana's Public Higher Education Problem Solved
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:43 am to FreddieMac
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:43 am to FreddieMac
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So college, the biggest means in our society to advance, should only be for those that have families that can afford to send them to school. The rest can be truck driver? What a load of horse shite!
There are states with populations similar to ours that have fewer universities. They make it work.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:43 am to Poncho
No shite. You can't move from Hammond to BR? No wait, you can't drive 40 minutes farther to receive an education?
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:43 am to FreddieMac
Either that or take student loans
College isn't a right
College isn't a right
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:45 am to LordSaintly
His suggestion is that we shouldn't close down unnecessary universities so a few kid don't have to make the hard sacrifices.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:47 am to Stud Bud
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Should of saved this thread for a work day.
Which of the soon to be closed Universities did you attend?
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:47 am to LordSaintly
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This mentality right here is why Louisiana has so many of these state universities relative to its population.
A system that has supported many of the current decision makes that want to pull it apart. So here is what we are as a nation: I got my degree so much cheaper because we supported this system. I have advanced my and family's status in life because I got a cheaper state college degree. Now that I have mine, we should want to pull that support making our children's path so much harder because we do not want to pay a bit more in taxes or do not have the balls to call a session that eliminates protections for other parts of the state budget?
A large percentage of people that want all these schools shut down benefited from the system and are now to greedy to give back to the next generation.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:48 am to LordSaintly
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There are states with populations similar to ours that have fewer universities. They make it work.
Name them.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:49 am to FreddieMac
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A large percentage of people that want all these schools shut down benefited from the system and are now to greedy to give back to the next generation.
Oh bullshite. Either you make the grades and get in on scholarship or work the system to get grants/loans/tops, etc.
We are the most fcked up state in the union with having all of these colleges and letting so many average students come have fun for a few years.
And if you can't make any of that work, again, the military or national guard is a great way to learn skills and get your college paid for.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:50 am to FreddieMac
Come the frick on. This has been a problem for years. You know how I benefitted from the system?
I made top notch grades, got a full ride to LSU, and worked three jobs to pay living expenses.
I'm sorry that I now want to keep my earnings instead of supporting unnecessary institutions for those who can't or won't do the same.
I made top notch grades, got a full ride to LSU, and worked three jobs to pay living expenses.
I'm sorry that I now want to keep my earnings instead of supporting unnecessary institutions for those who can't or won't do the same.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:50 am to East Coast Band
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Name them.
Iowa for one.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:51 am to Poncho
For political reasons your proposal will never happen.
A more realistic approach would be to turn each of the regional colleges into specialty schools. For example, SLU could specialize in education degrees and general studies. If you want to major in something else, you need to go elsewhere.
ULL, ULM, McNeese, La. Tech., Nichols, Grambling, Southern and UNO would all have a primary degree designation along with a general studies major. The other disciplines would not be offered resulting in major cost savings but still allowing the legislators to maintain they "saved" their local school.
Only LSU, as the Flagship University, would bestow a full menu of degrees.
SUNO would be merged into UNO.
LSUE, LSUS and LSUA would all be drastically downsized into 2 year schools becoming feeder schools into LSU Baton Rouge.
A more realistic approach would be to turn each of the regional colleges into specialty schools. For example, SLU could specialize in education degrees and general studies. If you want to major in something else, you need to go elsewhere.
ULL, ULM, McNeese, La. Tech., Nichols, Grambling, Southern and UNO would all have a primary degree designation along with a general studies major. The other disciplines would not be offered resulting in major cost savings but still allowing the legislators to maintain they "saved" their local school.
Only LSU, as the Flagship University, would bestow a full menu of degrees.
SUNO would be merged into UNO.
LSUE, LSUS and LSUA would all be drastically downsized into 2 year schools becoming feeder schools into LSU Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 1/23/16 at 10:57 am
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:51 am to Poncho
They need to rename ULL to Lafayette University similar to Auburn
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:54 am to Poncho
This is dumb, isn't SELU the 2nd highest enrolled university in the state?
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:55 am to tduecen
That doesn't matter. It's 40 minutes from LSU. That's wasteful.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 10:57 am to Poncho
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Poncho
Your newly elected democrat Governor, John Bel Edwards, does not support any of the proposals aimed at closing down schools in this state. If anything, he wants to make them a more bigger racket with more useless positions and more funding. He campaigned on that during the election season.
HBCU's? GTFO. That will never happen. JBE will never do anything to rock the boat with the biggest constituency that is solid for him and will need for reelection.
And the hilarious thing is, you voted for him along with a few other posters in this thread knowing full well that was reality.
Vitter would likely have gone ape shite in closing them and take one for the team. And I voted for that.
This post was edited on 1/23/16 at 10:59 am
Posted on 1/23/16 at 11:04 am to Sentrius
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Your newly elected democrat Governor, John Bel Edwards, does not support any of the proposals aimed at closing down schools in this state. If anything, he wants to make them a more bigger racket with more useless positions and more funding
Yep. Such a shame.
Can any person who has half a brain look at the situation and SUNO and tell us why it shouldn't be merged with UNO or closed?
Posted on 1/23/16 at 11:04 am to notiger1997
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Oh bullshite. Either you make the grades and get in on scholarship or work the system to get grants/loans/tops, etc.
Are you sure you made the grade. Let me put it this way. If you received your degree from any LA school before 2006, you got a degree much cheaper than kids going to college after 2006. Why?
Because people the benefited from a system have now decided that system is bloated and needs to be slashed. So all you that have a degree from LA prior to 2006 and are calling for shutdowns and cuts are hypocrites. Or do you do suggest we retroactive charge alumni the cost of a degree with 30% state support versus the 50 to 70% state support they got when they where in school?
If you do not think your degree you got with that 50 to 70% state support has not helped you achieve your status in society, you are lying to yourself or maybe some of you should have been truck drivers...
Posted on 1/23/16 at 11:05 am to FreddieMac
I got my degree after 2006.
The system still sucks.
The system still sucks.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 11:06 am to East Coast Band
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Name them
I compared Louisiana to Alabama, Kentucky, and South Carolina, based on their populations.
Each of those states has between 8-10 public 4-year colleges and universities. Louisiana has 13.
South Carolina and Alabama actually have more people than Louisiana, but they have fewer of these schools.
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