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My take on the QB situation

Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:02 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:02 pm
i'm sure it won't be popular but I don't think it's that big a deal not taking a QB in this class. Harris improved a lot this past year and, while still needing improvement, is likely to be our starter for two more years. most top flight high school qb's don't like sitting a year much less two years.

meanwhile, we've got 3 serviceable back ups on the roster now. this year was a kind of shoot for the moon and if we don't hit a top guy go for it next year. that and Franks flipping hurt.

next year is the year that we need to sign an outstanding QB. two, if possible.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68648 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:04 pm to
We signed a project QB last year. so you're okay with not taking a top notch QB 2 years in a row? That is seriously lacking. What are we going to do in 2018 after Harris leaves? We will have McMillian and either a RS freshman or true sophomore and we're right back to struggling at QB again.
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5024 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:04 pm to
The down votes will rain on you but I agree
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16533 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:05 pm to
We are an injury away from being in an Andrew Hatch situation. Not good considering the talent surrounding the position.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17375 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:06 pm to
You have to take at least a warm body. QB evaluation is a complete crap shoot. You have to play the numbers, even if they aren't all high 4*s. More so than any other postion, a 3* QB can turn out to be an all american and a 5* can be a dud. I personally think we should alternate between signing one and two every year.
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21063 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:07 pm to
It really doesn't matter who the QB at LSU is. A top recruit will likely underwhelm. A lower tier recruit will not meet expectations.

Posted by WARBOY
Gates of Valhalla
Member since Oct 2015
326 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:07 pm to
I'm very confident that if Haskins doesn't sign with LSU, that Junior Narcisse (2017) will commit sometime late spring/summer. He will be a spring enrollee in 2018 and will be fighting for the starting QB spot as a freshman. Even if he sits a year he will likely start in 2019 as a redshirt freshman, which will give LSU 4 years of greatness if he pans out as projected.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 4:10 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56654 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

sure it won't be popular but I don't think it's that big a deal not taking a QB in this class.
you would be wrong.

We can not continue to not develop QBs and we sure as hell cant develop a QB that is not here.

We have Jennings and Etling...both clones of each other that have failed as starters one at Purdue and one here.

Harris is going to be a serviceable QB.

McMillan is a project guy, hopefully he makes tremendous gains..but lets face it, if you cant beat out Jennings and Harris even as a freshman, oh my.

Now look at what will happen from there, Jennings transfers, Etling transfers or just hangs up the cleats and there you are.......McMillan as the only person who will have time to learn the three years worth of info it seems you need to run this offense.

Remember back to the not so long ago, that day when we tried to start Andrew Hatch? I remember it.

Missing out on a QB isn't all that different from kicking one off the team.

Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:12 pm to
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Harris improved a lot this past year and, while still needing improvement, is likely to be our starter for two more years


Although Harris improved slightly unless he improves dramatically going forward we will not win the West with him at QB. I don't necessarily blame it on Harris, they are asking him to run an offense that he is not suited for so much. Even though he has a cannon for an arm he isn't the most accurate passer which is what is need in a pro style offense. That is why Mett was so successful "besides have the 2 best receivers in the country" he was an accurate passer.

Looking at Harris he doesn't even look comfortable in the pocket and if you are in a pro-style offense and you aren't comfortable in the pocket well you see the results. Harris did well against very inferior defenses and stunk it up against good defenses. I don't see that changes much going forward because LSU is not implementing an offense for Harris to be successful in.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
41052 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:12 pm to
Saban signs at least 1QB a year. A lot don't pan out but they wind up finding one that fits competing on the practice field.
Posted by PennyPacker
Where things are bigger and better
Member since Jan 2010
1028 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

most top flight high school qb's don't like sitting a year much less two years


Not entirely true, other schools sign 3 and 4 star QB's every year.

Our problem is we zero in on one and ignore the rest. We have being doing this for years. We need to stop that crap and recruit multiple QB's every year and even when one commits we need to keep up relationship in case the committed guy flips, just like Flippy Franks.

We shouldn't be in a position where we "NEED" to sign a couple outstanding QB's in a single class. Major room for improvement in our recruiting strategy is needed!
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17076 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:14 pm to
It's going to be hard to pull a big time qb when other teams are probably talking shite about our inconsistent passing attack to these recruits non stop every year.

Coaching staff needs to figure this out cause obviously bringing in a former nfl coach hasnt helped
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19159 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

i'm sure it won't be popular but I don't think it's that big a deal not taking a QB in this class.


It is a real big deal because in two years we only have one scholarship QB left... Justin McMillan. We don't need to start 2018 with a Soph QB with no experience and that is all that is left. That is what we will have if we whiff on this class.

We don't need a qb in this class for next year or the year after for that matter. It will leave a hole in the progression like we got with Perillioux.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:26 pm to
I respect and appreciate your opinion but completely disagree. It's a huge deal.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 5:11 pm to
Les Miles does not consider the QB position to be important and therefore he does not worry about recruiting it. In his mind, just about anyone can hand the ball off in the Toss Dive and that's all that matters to him. If you are a fan of LSU football and expecting to see a great QB, you will be waiting until Les Miles is gone.
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11561 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 5:15 pm to
No excuse for Cam's piss poor recruiting, Gramps
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18076 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 5:26 pm to
My take on the QB situation:

Posted by bdnc
Member since Dec 2011
939 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:01 pm to
i think it’s safe to say that Miles & Co. don’t know what they are doing on the field and recruits are not impressed with what they are hearing off the field.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14551 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:17 pm to
We had the easiest path to the best qb in this class, but his brother was an arse clown. Franks was committed for a while and Haskins had connections with LSU. Three top five qbs, and we struck out. Cam can't figure out who the hell his guy is and has not proven to do that great of a job of getting him. McMillan went off at the LSU camp and got an offer and Cam was done in that class. This class was his chance to prove he could go get a top flight qb. He failed. It sounds like we are good to nab Narcisse who is an awesome athlete. It will be up to Cam to coach him up. I think we need to hope either Harris is really solid and stays 2 or McMillan is legit and can help us as early as this year. People see Harris staying, but he'll lose: top 2 wrs, fournette, and at least 2 offensive linemen. It's not out of the question that a championship run leaves us without Harris. We are not prepared for that case.
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