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re: This AT&T Next plan is a joke, right?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:19 pm to bbap
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:19 pm to bbap
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It may not be perfectly suited for you but the issue is people who thinks at&t just screwed them out of $700 on a phone.
These people simply dont understand.
I'll admit I was confused about the program at first. Granted Mrs. Golfer was getting the information explained to her from ATT store rep then relaying it to me, but I had to go pull the numbers to make sure I wasn't getting fleeced.
As someone else said, ATT hasn't done the best job marketing the plan.
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:19 pm to tigersaint26
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:19 pm to Barf
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As it stands right now, unless something changes, the data plan to fit my needs cost more than the plan I currently have. Even if I opt to pay full retail for a phone in the future, it's still costing me more money for the same service if I calculate the cost of the phone over the next 24 months.
While that sucks surely you didnt expect unlimited plans to last forever. This really has nothing to do with the next plan itself and people not understanding how it works.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:19 pm to Clyde Tipton
Go to Swappa.com or one of those sites, get a mint condition used phone for half the price, and stick your SIM card in it.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:19 pm to stout
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Buy a phone outright if you want to keep unlimited
Or go to the Apple store directly and get a phone with their payment plan they offer and get a new iPhone every year. AppleCare included in plan so your phone is covered if you break it.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:20 pm to stout
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It's not retarded. Plenty of people already have DTV so they can take advantage of it.
Just because it doesn't benefit you doesn't mean it's retarded. AT&T doesn't design their business around what works for "barf" from TigerDroppings.com.
Right but you are ignoring what I am saying so that your argument fits your narrative.
Bottom line is the new system screws me out of a not so insignificant amount of money. Now matter how much you like the next plan or shout from your soap box about how stupid everyone is and how many threads have proved your case.
Bottom line is this is bad for some. The idea that you can suggest the unlimited plan with the DTV service just highlights that you are ignoring all the other variables.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:20 pm to CaptainsWafer
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That's my issue, however as of the last week or so, ATT is offering unlimited plans if you have ATT wireless and DirecTv. Which I have.
I do not know what it costs for that vs what it costs now.
I think it's $100 plus $40 per line (first line is free).
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:21 pm to tylerlsu2008
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but you essentially pay full price for your phone. Basically shifting the price structure.
You were always paying full price for you phone. It was just built into the cost of your plan. The carriers have "dropped" the cost of a plan to reflect this. You then have the option to buy a phone outright, or use a zero down loan for the new phone. If you pick the longest financing option it should come out to be about the same monthly charge as before. This option goes beyond 2 years. That accounts for the $100 or so you were previously paying when you upgraded your phone under the previous system.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:21 pm to Barf
you should just switch to DTV anyway. Unless you are a cord cutter.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:22 pm to bbap
Right, however my three highest months of data usage were 14.4, 10.5, and 10.2 GB. Texts were 892, and over 750 for the next two highest.
Would plans that cover that much usage cost more than my unlimited now, most probably. Although it appears I may luck out by having DTV.
ETA Seeing your post above is where I think we'll luck out and pay about the same, without new phones.
Would plans that cover that much usage cost more than my unlimited now, most probably. Although it appears I may luck out by having DTV.
ETA Seeing your post above is where I think we'll luck out and pay about the same, without new phones.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:23 pm to CaptainsWafer
texts are a nonissue. every plan probably has unlimited minutes and text.
There is definitely a 15 gig plan. I'm on it now although i need to up it because we've gone over 2 months in a row. I think it's $100 but i'm not positive.
There is definitely a 15 gig plan. I'm on it now although i need to up it because we've gone over 2 months in a row. I think it's $100 but i'm not positive.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:23 pm to Clyde Tipton
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I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan. I heard nothing about a rebate on my plan to offset the new phone costs.
This is part of where the confusion starts. People on the grandfathered unlimited plan (myself included) have been able to get a subsidized phone every two years and sign a new contract. There was no change in cost either way for not getting the subsidized phone, so it always made sense to just do it.
The rebate/discount that people are talking about is a bit misleading. Prior to January 8 of this year, if you were on one of AT&T's current plans, you had two choices regarding acquiring a phone:
1. Pay FULL price for a phone -- either through AT&T next installments using any of the options I posted earlier in this thread, or buy your phone from literally anywhere else that sells GSM phones.
2. Sign a new 2-year contract and get the subsidized price. BUT your bill would be raised either $15 or $25 per month. People like to construe it as getting a discount for going with AT&T Next/Buying your phone outright, but it's pretty clear that it's a penalization to transition people out of the 24-month contract mentality. The people who disagree with this simply are not aware of AT&T's pricing structure history over the past 8 years.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:24 pm to bbap
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While that sucks surely you didnt expect unlimited plans to last forever.
There was never any indication to suspect otherwise.
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This really has nothing to do with the next plan itself and people not understanding how it works.
Correct, but just because it fricks some people over does not mean those people should be lumped in with the folks who "don't get it."
As Stout pointed out, I can keep my unlimited plan. It will just cost me an extra $100/month for the DTV service that goes along with it. I think it's a retarded suggestion, but that doesn't mean I don't understand the new system.
The big question is does the extra $25 fee go away once it catches up with the remaining cost of the phone? I suspect it does not but I very well may be wrong.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:24 pm to Barf
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Right but you are ignoring what I am saying so that your argument fits your narrative.
No I am not. I am explaining how the next plan works now vs the old 2-year plans and how it's not a rip-off that all of a sudden has you paying for the phone. You have always paid for the phone but before it was just built into your plan/hidden.
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Bottom line is the new system screws me out of a not so insignificant amount of money. Now matter how much you like the next plan or shout from your soap box about how stupid everyone is and how many threads have proved your case.
How much data are you using and what does it cost you now?
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The idea that you can suggest the unlimited plan with the DTV service just highlights that you are ignoring all the other variables.
No. I am saying it's an option for some. I never said it was an option for all but you are wanting to read whatever fits your narrative here.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:24 pm to Clyde Tipton
I have Verizon. Currently I pay $60 a month for unlimited voice/talk and 1GB of data on a traditional plan. I have a Droid Turbo that I paid $150 for last April.
With Verizon's newer plan I'd pay $50 a month for the plan ($30 data, $20 talk) plus the fee for the phone for 24 months. A Droid Turbo 2 is $21.83/month for 24 months.
Single line on old Verizon plan: $1590 for 24 months
Single line on new Verizon plan: $1724 for 24 months
That is not a savings. I'd have to keep the old phone for 14 additional months at $10 savings per month before I'd be better off. 3 years is a long time to keep a phone.
With Verizon's newer plan I'd pay $50 a month for the plan ($30 data, $20 talk) plus the fee for the phone for 24 months. A Droid Turbo 2 is $21.83/month for 24 months.
Single line on old Verizon plan: $1590 for 24 months
Single line on new Verizon plan: $1724 for 24 months
That is not a savings. I'd have to keep the old phone for 14 additional months at $10 savings per month before I'd be better off. 3 years is a long time to keep a phone.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:25 pm to Barf
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There was never any indication to suspect otherwise.
i couldnt disagree more with that.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:25 pm to Clyde Tipton
I know it sounds like it sucks, but I used to do marketing consulting for Alltel (before they were bought by Verizon). Internally, this is how the carriers have always looked at pricing.
You will probably end up being about the same if you calculate it out.
You will probably end up being about the same if you calculate it out.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:26 pm to just1dawg
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I have Verizon. Currently I pay $60 a month for unlimited voice/talk and 1GB of data on a traditional plan. I have a Droid Turbo that I paid $150 for last April.
With Verizon's newer plan I'd pay $50 a month for the plan ($30 data, $20 talk) plus the fee for the phone for 24 months. A Droid Turbo 2 is $21.83/month for 24 months.
Single line on old Verizon plan: $1590 for 24 months
Single line on new Verizon plan: $1724 for 24 months
That is not a savings. I'd have to keep the old phone for 14 additional months at $10 savings per month before I'd be better off. 3 years is a long time to keep a phone.
1 gig? why do you even bother with smart phones? just kidding.
but seriously people who use as little data as you are an outlier and not a good sample point.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:27 pm to Clyde Tipton
Reading threads like this make me remember why most small businesses fail.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:27 pm to Indfanfromcol
I am leaving AT&T as soon as my husbands contract is up in February. They are increasing the cost of his unlimited data plan so he has the option to get out. We are going to try Cricket. I know, it is ghetto and all that but it is cheap and they use the same cell towers as AT&T! Why pay so much? I need a new phone so I am just buying one full price up front and taking it to the Cricket store. It isn't like I am getting screwed buying a new phone since AT&T makes you pay full price but over a long period of time. Cricket also doesn't have contracts so if it really does suck then we leave. As an added bonus they have free International calls from Mexico and Canada as well as texts, we cruise a lot so that could end up coming in handy.
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