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re: University of Alabama begins drug testing Fraternity members
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:56 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:56 am to Riseupfromtherubble
i was always told, whatever anyone gives you, take 1/2
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:58 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Nothing new. The DKES up there gave into this shite about 7 years ago. Lots of guys just dropped out of the frat.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:59 am to sullivanct19a
about this being Constitutional you can bet that it is. these frats are given permission to stay on campus and such. the university has a right to make sure the campus is free of drugs. regular employees are subject to drug testing because they're on campus and i'm betting regular students in dorms are subject to it as well.
frats have no one to blame but themselves. they've tried to act like they have diplomatic immunity or something for so long, like there are no consequences, now they've brought too much attention to themselves.
frats have no one to blame but themselves. they've tried to act like they have diplomatic immunity or something for so long, like there are no consequences, now they've brought too much attention to themselves.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:00 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Time to move off campus!
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:01 pm to idlewatcher
If they were on probation and they agree to it under terms of probation...I see nothing wrong
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:07 pm to PepaSpray
pills and blow were a problem in Tuscaloosa 15 yrs ago when I was in school. That problem has probably only gotten worse since then.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:10 pm to bamaphan13
They do major drug busts on campus every single spring.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:13 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
I'm guessing a frat member wrote that judging by the adjectives used in the article
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:17 pm to genro
Spring Cleaning still rocking, eh?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:20 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Chances of this getting thrown out? 100 percent. Are they testing sororities? Football players?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:21 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
What happens if they don't get tested?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:22 pm to bamaphan13
it seems like pills and blow are way bigger over there than in BR.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:22 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
I think it's a great idea. In fact, everybody should be subject to random drug-tested by the government.For public safety. And for the children. Because they are our future.
FORWARD, bitches !
FORWARD, bitches !
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:26 pm to Lsupimp
Drug testing for all forms of welfare recipients was blown up.... If you cant drug test them, what gives them the right to drug test Frat guys?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:32 pm to Count Chocula
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Drug testing for all forms of welfare recipients was blown up.... If you cant drug test them, what gives them the right to drug test Frat guys?
That was thrown out on political grounds, not Constitutional, wasn't it?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:36 pm to sullivanct19a
Either way, it was thrown out - that is except for frat boys now.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:40 pm to Count Chocula
the reason is pretty important here if you're going to be whining about it. at least whine if you have a reason. doesn't look like there's a reason at all for frats to whine. they did this to themselves.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:41 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Is the selective process of only testing fraternities specifically and not students at large really fair?
Yes. Their classification is different from the rest of the student body population due to the various privileges that they "receive" (I do recognize the fact that they pay for such special treatment). Plus, they are direct representatives of the University.
The reason why you could argue that their random drug screening is fair compared to other social clubs and organizations is due to the fact that many Greek functions revolve around formals and parties.
For the record, I think that drug-testing in general is absolute bullshite. It's 2015. Over-the-counter/prescription drug use is far more rampant, and arguably just as dangerous, as any sort of narcotics smuggled across American borders.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:41 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
The Legion of Honor will remain undeterred
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:44 pm to sullivanct19a
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about this being Constitutional you can bet that it is.
I'd take that bet, or at least bet it's thrown out with a good challenge.
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the university has a right to make sure the campus is free of drugs.
Sure they do. And they can do that my any means that does not include an illegal search or seizure of their students or employees.
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regular employees are subject to drug testing because they're on campus
Probable cause is required. There is not random testing of state employees.
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i'm betting regular students in dorms are subject to it as well.
And you would be wrong again.
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frats have no one to blame but themselves. they've tried to act like they have diplomatic immunity or something for so long, like there are no consequences, now they've brought too much attention to themselves.
Agree with this though.
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