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re: Statistically, Cam is nowhere near the MVP
Posted on 12/15/15 at 9:32 am to CocoLoco
Posted on 12/15/15 at 9:32 am to CocoLoco
quote:
8th in passer rating
Not in the top 20 of completion %
35 TDs.
THIRTY FIVE TEE-DEES.
Plus, there's this:
https://espn.go.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/17891/panthers-qb-cam-newton-is-leading-the-nfl-in-deep-throw-accuracy
quote:
Panthers QB Cam Newton leads NFL in deep throw accuracy
Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton isn’t the most accurate passer in the NFL, but he is in terms of deep passes.
Newton has an accuracy percentage of an NFL-best 51.7 percent on throws that travel 20-plus yards, according to Pro Football Focus.
quote:
But Newton has completed 80 of 123 pass attempts (65 percent) over the past four games for 13 touchdowns to move into that elite territory.
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Posted on 12/15/15 at 10:45 am to CocoLoco
quote:Is that bad?
8th in passer rating
quote:But only a few percentage points behind Brady with a significantly larger percentage of his passing yards being in the air rather than after the catch.
Not in the top 20 of completion %
Posted on 12/15/15 at 10:50 am to beatbammer
Percentage of air yards:
Drew Brees 48.7
Tom Brady 50.8
Carson Palmer 63.7
Cam Newton 65.3
Drew Brees 48.7
Tom Brady 50.8
Carson Palmer 63.7
Cam Newton 65.3
Posted on 12/15/15 at 10:50 am to CocoLoco
quote:
8th in passer rating
Not in the top 20 of completion %
Yeah he's doing it with trash WRs a below average RB and an average OL
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 12/15/15 at 11:05 am to ForeverLSU02
quote:
quote:
Statistically, Cam is nowhere near the MVP
Cam = Derrick Henry
Kind of the opposite for me. Henry is the ultra productive, likely solid-NFL-quality player who benefitted from a great team and piled up numbers. He's a workman like player to the max.
Cam is the less efficient, but more spectacular player that Carolina has built a team around. Panthers have bought in to his attitude and style, and he's figuring out how to help his team win in various ways on a week by week basis.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 11:25 am to Pettifogger
quote:
Cam = Derrick Henry
lol, Henry is a system back
Cam is the system
Posted on 12/15/15 at 11:56 am to Brightside Bengal
quote:
So is his MVP status solely on the undefeated record?
It's a large part of it. He's also playing with some pretty mediocre talent around him. Kelvin Benjamin hasn't played all season.
If Carolina wins out, he's got it.
If they drop a game, then I see Brady or Carson Palmer stepping in.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 12:04 pm to bbeck
quote:I think Palmer is ahead of Brady at this point. Russell Wilson may get in the conversation if he plays the next 3 games like he has the last 5.
If Carolina wins out, he's got it.
If they drop a game, then I see Brady or Carson Palmer stepping in.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 12:46 pm to PearlJam
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 12/15/15 at 1:13 pm to PearlJam
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 12/15/15 at 1:15 pm to AUPharmacist
quote:
Pearl Jam - are you really an Auburn fan?
If Carson Palmer and Tom Brady can lose two games then shouldn't Cam Newton be able to drop two games as well?
Russell Wilson and the Seahawks may not make the playoffs plus Cam Newton beat Mr Wilson in his own back yard!!
Because Brady and Palmer's resume is more than just being undefeated
Posted on 12/15/15 at 1:18 pm to TigerBait1127
He is still the QB of a top 10 offense in the league who hasn't been racking up any garbage stats.
Stats Against Current Projected Playoff Teams
Passing:
72/135 1060 yards 11 TDs/4 Int
Rushing:
30 attempts 144 yards 2 TDs
I think those are solid.
Teams: Seattle, Washington, Green Bay, Indianapolis
Stats Against Current Projected Playoff Teams
Passing:
72/135 1060 yards 11 TDs/4 Int
Rushing:
30 attempts 144 yards 2 TDs
I think those are solid.
Teams: Seattle, Washington, Green Bay, Indianapolis
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 12/15/15 at 1:19 pm to AUPharmacist
quote:
How much time will the coaching staff play him the rest of the season after watching the Andy Dalton incident Sunday?
They have to keep playing him, especially if the Cardinals keep winning.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 1:33 pm to AUPharmacist
quote:Yes.
Pearl Jam - are you really an Auburn fan?
quote:Being undefeated is what tips the scale in his favor. If he loses that, it's hard to get past the numbers Palmer is putting up.
If Carson Palmer and Tom Brady can lose two games then shouldn't Cam Newton be able to drop two games as well?
quote:If Wilson plays the next 3 weeks like he has the last 5, Seattle makes the playoffs and Wilson gets some MVP talk (assuming cam drops a game or 2).
Russell Wilson / Seattle Seahawks may not make the playoffs plus Cam Newton beat Mr Wilson in his own back yard!
Posted on 12/15/15 at 1:33 pm to TigerBait1127
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 12/15/15 at 1:50 pm to AUPharmacist
quote:
Where is the big difference for Brady and Palmer over Newton to win the MVP?
Do I need to link the OP?
Uh on, we have a deleted post now
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 12/15/15 at 5:08 pm to apfour21
quote:
You ever think Cam has less passing yards because his team is ahead and doesn't need to throw as much?
Are you fricking serious?
Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:10 pm to Brightside Bengal
Which would be weaker?
Cam's NFL MVP
or
Ingram's Heisman
Cam's NFL MVP
or
Ingram's Heisman
Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:17 pm to genro
quote:
Ingram's Heisman
A good season, well short of spectacular.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 12:20 pm to hoopsgalore
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