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re: F. KIng Alexander Speaks on Miles Decision
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:10 pm to Hammertime
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:10 pm to Hammertime
quote:
Money coming in goes up, spending goes up. There aren't any actual overall cuts to the budget at LSU. They get less money from the state, they double the amount coming in from students.
Where are the cuts in those numbers? Not searching for the actual budget on my phone, but if there were cuts, why are they spending more?
You don't understand how social entitlement math works? You don't start with last year. Start with 100% of all capital available. Anything they don't get is a cut.
And I am reporting you for a micro aggression
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:13 pm to igoringa
I fail to understand why, if there are such huge budget cuts, LSU is spending more. It obviously isn't an issue.
Less money from the state, tuition is raised to make up more than enough of that reduction from the state, enrollment actually INCREASES with the tuition increases. That is just from 2011 to 2014
Less money from the state, tuition is raised to make up more than enough of that reduction from the state, enrollment actually INCREASES with the tuition increases. That is just from 2011 to 2014
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:13 pm to LSUGoose
Putting athletics aside, I don't want this politicking a-hole in charge of any facet of my alma mater. frick him.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:15 pm to LSUGoose
So in short he's saying they used the Rant to come to a decision
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:16 pm to LSUGoose
So King killed the deal because Louisiana politicians and the general public are ignorant to financing a coach's salary?
This story just keeps getting worse or better, depending how you look at it.
Doesn't pull trigger on coach.
Blames everyone else for ignorance.
This story just keeps getting worse or better, depending how you look at it.
Doesn't pull trigger on coach.
Blames everyone else for ignorance.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:20 pm to Hammertime
quote:
I fail to understand why, if there are such huge budget cuts, LSU is spending more. It obviously isn't an issue.
Well, one would assume that most of the budget is going to salaries for employees.
That's what you would have to cut.
And they could do so, but it wouldn't be without consequence as faculty can leave and go to other schools that pay more or will give them a raise.
LSU isn't competing in a vacuum. On the football field or otherwise, we have to compete with other schools.
Cut shite enough and LSU will be back to where it was in the 80s as a school.
Here's an article on LSU salaries. It's from a couple of years ago but it shows that you have 12,192 employees making a total of $710 million.
LINK
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:21 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:
So King killed the deal because Louisiana politicians and the general public are ignorant to financing a coach's salary?
Yeah, well don't forget Jimbo also said no or at least that's what was being reported Saturday morning prior to the game.
That may have had a teeny bit to do with it.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:24 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:
Putting athletics aside, I don't want this politicking a-hole in charge of any facet of my alma mater. frick him.
Yeah, well, I'd actually like a chancellor who can get the state to properly fund the university.
That's his number one job.
His number one job isn't to run off a coach who lost 3 games this year so we can go hire who knows to replace him at a cost of tens of millions more.
Now, the AD could have said "Here's the political reality. Me and TAF have Jimbo locked down tight. It's going to happen. So get on board or my friends in TAF will take you down with Miles."
Clearly that didn't happen. Probably because Jimbo was far from locked down. And TAF superpowers may be greatly exaggerated.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:26 pm to BrerTiger
fascinating discussion about vacuums and the 80's, but please answer his question.
You claimed they cut the shite out of the school but spending went up every year.
Clearly net spending growth - not a cut.
Nice pivot to explain why they need to spend more but crawfish back to the cut the shite out of argument and explain
You claimed they cut the shite out of the school but spending went up every year.
Clearly net spending growth - not a cut.
Nice pivot to explain why they need to spend more but crawfish back to the cut the shite out of argument and explain
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:28 pm to KiwiHead
Why is OK for the state taxpayers to be forced to pay the richest man in Louisiana, Tom Benson, $400 million just to keep his team in NOLA?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:30 pm to RedTigerRulz
quote:" Les > Les haters" was LSU talking. Nice tshirt.
And LSU > Miles....dont ever forget this you silly putz.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:31 pm to igoringa
If this is going to go the route of a political conversation, the first thing any governor does is shite down suno(why keep this idiot warehouse open?)and merge some of these directional schools. Very low hanging fruit in regards to saving, but costly in the political patronage it would cut out.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:36 pm to igoringa
quote:
You claimed they cut the shite out of the school but spending went up every year.
They have closed/consolidated 60 programs, per LSU.
I'm not an expert in LSU's budget but I would imagine the small increases in the total budget year over year are largely due to salaries for existing faculty. They have done hiring freezes but I don't know if they've done salary freezes. And if they did, there would be consequences to that in terms of retention and quality of faculty who decide to stay (as played out in the past).
At any rate, it appears the pendulum is swinging back now. John Bel will restore some funding next year.
But we'll be right back here again. History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:39 pm to BrerTiger
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:48 pm to BrerTiger
have any of the boosters who donate a ton of money monthly to the university openly said they are not donating a single penny until King is gone?
I also would imagine that some of the big athletic boosters also donate to the university. I'm wondering how this news is sitting with them and if they will stop donating to the academic side.
I also would imagine that some of the big athletic boosters also donate to the university. I'm wondering how this news is sitting with them and if they will stop donating to the academic side.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:50 pm to nitwit
This is the bottom line .... LSU stupidly extended Miles contract for way too many years with idiotic buyout terms.
LSU got married to Miles when the ink dried on the contract. You see now that they can't get out of it. Welcome to the new era of non-relevance.
The Everly Bros. said it best:
Bye bye love
Bye bye happiness
Hello loneliness
I think I'm-a gonna cry-y
Bye bye love
Bye bye sweet caress
Hello emptiness
I feel like I could die
Bye bye my love goodbye
LSU got married to Miles when the ink dried on the contract. You see now that they can't get out of it. Welcome to the new era of non-relevance.
The Everly Bros. said it best:
Bye bye love
Bye bye happiness
Hello loneliness
I think I'm-a gonna cry-y
Bye bye love
Bye bye sweet caress
Hello emptiness
I feel like I could die
Bye bye my love goodbye
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:35 pm to LSUGoose
In the business world you have the "war room" where you huddle and lay out your plan to execute. Everyone involved understands the objective, tactics, negotiable points, communications piece of it, etc.
Clearly, this group of academic stooges went into this with no such planning. They had no communications strategy to follow through on and F King wasn't committed to the plan as loosely executed. If that is the case, they should have never started this fiasco and embarrass the university, our coach and themselves.
If you were going to fire the man, then you should have fired the man. To let him twist in the wind and then decide to keep him was completely avoidable from the standpoint of negatively impacting the schools reputation.
Clearly, this group of academic stooges went into this with no such planning. They had no communications strategy to follow through on and F King wasn't committed to the plan as loosely executed. If that is the case, they should have never started this fiasco and embarrass the university, our coach and themselves.
If you were going to fire the man, then you should have fired the man. To let him twist in the wind and then decide to keep him was completely avoidable from the standpoint of negatively impacting the schools reputation.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:53 pm to TJG210
quote:
If this is going to go the route of a political conversation, the first thing any governor does is shite down suno(why keep this idiot warehouse open?)and merge some of these directional schools. Very low hanging fruit in regards to saving, but costly in the political patronage it would cut out.
Last time they were on the chopping block, I remember their president defending their horrendous graduation rate by claiming graduating students was not their job
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:58 pm to LSUGoose
Just great.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:58 pm
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