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re: Crucial job decision to make tomorrow *update page 5

Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12046 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:22 pm to
What does your wife do/where does she work?

Otherwise, sounds like the decision to move is a good one.

EDIT: Just read your wife is sold. Do it.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 10:23 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127265 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:24 pm to
It sounds like you already know what you want to do. Go for it....
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:27 pm to
Take the pay cut and go be miserable AND alone.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160118 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:28 pm to
If you don't care about/don't have close family nearby, leave. Go to Colorado.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63552 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:32 pm to
Here is where I give you advice I am extremely confident in despite knowing nowhere near enough about your situation...


Just kidding, nobody here knows enough to tell you what to do. If you want validation for the way you are leaning, then whatever way that is is probably right. Trust your gut.

I will say that the joy you get from work should always come from you. If you are as awesome at your current job as you say you are, that should be a pretty big deal.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76819 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:32 pm to
I'd go where pot is legal
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98708 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:36 pm to
CS is my least favorite town in Colorado. HQ for several religious right organizations, so there's a heavy fundy vibe. But it's still in CO, and CO > TX. $10k is a hefty paycut. I would probably still go if I were you.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3187 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:41 pm to
Moved to Colorado for a better job, slightly less pay.

Best professional decision i've ever made.

I'll buy you a beer when you get here.

Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5152 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:46 pm to
TL/DR. TD Answer... Sleep with boss' wife, shite on his desk, and walk out
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:49 pm to
My company was bought out. There was no mass layoff. But after three years they have almost completely gotten rid of all the original employees. If you're being recruited by the other place you may have more job security there

Also, that was my lesson to not stay somewhere when I'm miserable out of comfort or stability. It's not worth it
Posted by IonaTiger
The Commonwealth Of Virginia
Member since Mar 2006
33053 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:55 pm to
Francis, I would have thought that you'd check with French, Fitzy, and Delahunt before you came here.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 12:21 am to
Kids are too young to consider. Plus, both Texas and Colorado offer great public schools. Texas offers the no state income tax thing, but it is from my understanding that they make it up by sticking it to you in other areas.

As far as the "hating cold weather" thing...I don't know what else to tell you other than for fricks sake, suck it up you bitch. You'd be living in Colorado Springs, not Oymyakon.

Thie biggest headscratcher to me is...
quote:

my organization hired a new leader a year ago. Philosophically, we are polarizingly different. This has led to some tense moments regarding how we conduct our business, obviously. Despite that, because I am a significant asset


(1) Why were you passed up/not looked at the new leadership position?
(2) Why can't you, a significant asset, and a new leader that your company obviously thinks highly of, get along and collaborate on great ideas? Most successful companies will agree that is the absolute dream scenario for success. This isn't a high school project...you're adults. The two of you should respect each others ideas and apply them when one philosophy is correct. When that doesn't work, both of your thoughts should be combined and blended in appropriate instances.
This post was edited on 10/22/15 at 12:26 am
Posted by p0845330
Member since Aug 2013
5705 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 1:22 am to
If the pay cut won't starve you, go with being happy.
Posted by SNAPPERHEAD
Possumneck, Ms.
Member since Jan 2006
10050 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 1:30 am to
Sometimes you have to take a step back to take two forward. I've done it twice and both worked out great. I'm with you on hating the cold weather. I was stuck in Kansas for two years. It was worth it in the end. Good luck!
Posted by Mullet Flap
Lysdexia
Member since Jun 2015
4208 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 2:08 am to
You ask the OT for career advice and you'll wake up in a ditch the next morning with an eye patch and your hair sold to a wig shop
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56596 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 2:29 am to
Can your household function on $600-$700 less cash a month?

If not, tell the potential company that and give them a chance to sweeten the offer.

Best case scenarios for working your way up your career ladder entail at least a 10% pay bump when switching companies. Is that possible over the next year at least?

Once you are on board, usually the chance for rapid raises goes away. I'd "flinch" tomorrow and counter to forget the December vacation if they can make this a true horizontals salary move.
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
5047 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 3:08 am to
It's not as cold as you think. I've actually been colder in Louisiana in the winter than Colorado because they have so much lower humidity.
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7382 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 5:01 am to
Unless you make $30k a $10k difference in salary should never make you go broke.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5528 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 6:32 am to
I was in the exact position a couple years ago. The difference is that I didn't have to move, just had to commute 45 minutes in lieu of 15.

I was overworked by a large public company. They paid well and I had autonomy but the volume of work was not sustainable and my request for help fell on deaf ears. Others in my position had the staff to help but since I could "handle it" I was never fully staffed.

I was recruited by a small private company working on expanding their business and they needed me to help them gain and manage new work.

I took the pay cut and switched companies. One of the best decisions I've made. I was happy at work again and my overall attitude changed. My family also liked the new me as well.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 6:32 am to
Unhealthy, get out now.

If you take the Colorado job you will make up the $10K difference pretty quick if your are good at the role.

The mention of your family makes it even more important to get out, you cannot be at your best with this weight on your shoulders. I've been there, luckily I outlasted the guy but I would not advise that.
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