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re: Official The Walking Dead Season Premiere S6E01 "First Time Again" NO COMICS

Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:37 am to
Posted by LSUfan20005
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:37 am to
Agree that the plan was foolhardy and had very little chance of success, too many variables.

What happened to "I don't take risks anymore?"

They could have taken those tractors at the store, dug out moats around the quarry, reinforced barriers, etc. shite, if you are gonna build an extra wall, why not just do it at the quarry?

Meanwhile, they station people at the quarry to systematically kill the walkers over the course of a few weeks. Kill the 20 near the trailers, more come up, kill those.

Fire, crushing, whatever works. But why bring them closer to Alexandria when there's NO guarantee that they'll ever go that way to begin with?
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:39 am to
Because TV. If they did the right thing and solved their problems easily shite would be pretty damn boring.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:39 am to
How was the plan supposed to end?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:39 am to
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The plan was odd.


Did they ever say where they were taking the herd? How far out of town do you have to bring the herd to not be worried about them turning around? And do you really want to make this herd someone else's problem? Seems like kind of a dick move unless they're an enemy. When the episode started with the flashbacks explaining the herd, I was expecting the plan was to drop a zombie bomb on the wolves.
Posted by AUveritas
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:40 am to
I think I heard Rick mention 20 miles away at some point.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:41 am to
Shane couldn't hack it.

If he had lived he would be alone today if still alive and would have probably blown his head off by now anyways. He wasn't a leader, more than likely Lori, Carl and Judith would be dead too. They have needed their group to survive. Shane wouldn't have had such a group, and any he had would have been shady.

Dude was a mental pussy..and was always trying to over-compensate for it.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:47 am to
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You have 10,000 walkers in a pit, why not try and blow them up first?


Or make some moltovs and chuck them into the pit, letting them all burn
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:48 am to
Probably already been mentioned, but. . .

Instead of letting out thousands of walkers, why not just reinforce the walls holding them in at the quarry?

ETA: Asked and answered
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 9:53 am
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:48 am to
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Because TV. If they did the right thing and solved their problems easily shite would be pretty damn boring


Pretty much this. I always chuckle at people who freak out when characters don't follow the simple and logical way to do something. It would make for boring TV...and then they would bitch about that.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:49 am to
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How was the plan supposed to end?


That's what I was wondering as well. I thought they would maybe lead them to a drop off and the zombies would go falling over like lemmings.

Or they were leading them to a large pit where they could be dispatched with fire?
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:50 am to
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Agree that the plan was foolhardy and had very little chance of success, too many variables. 

What happened to "I don't take risks anymore?" 

They could have taken those tractors at the store, dug out moats around the quarry, reinforced barriers, etc. shite, if you are gonna build an extra wall, why not just do it at the quarry? 



It needed to be cleared. The sound was pulling more and more.

The plan was fine for such short notice and was working up until someone randomly sounded a horn.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:54 am to
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Or make some moltovs and chuck them into the pit, letting them all burn


Waste of fuel when they can be herded. Hell of a situation but, at least you wouldn't be bored.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:54 am to
I absolutely loved this episode and it just started off with a bang .

I enjoyed the black and white scenes. Nice little homage to the comics and a clever way to show past scenes without confusing some of the audience (because you know it would).

Rick is a badass. Morgan is a badass. Really the entire group are so lethal at this point it's quite remarkable considering where they started.

I was expecting Sasha and Abraham to make some kind of Selma and Louise suicide pact at the end, and think if the horn wouldn't have sounded, that's what would have happened. Maybe drive into a ravine, taking all the walkers with them?

The horn coming from Alexandria was set off by Ron, in my opinion. Stupid punk kid pissed about his abusive dad getting capped. Enid is just too obvious a guess so I'm going with Ron for now.

Looking forward to next week in what I feel will be a fast paced thrill ride of a season.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:54 am to
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When the episode started with the flashbacks explaining the herd, I was expecting the plan was to drop a zombie bomb on the wolves.


Im not sure they are completely aware of the "wolves". They know a tiny bit but have no idea of their location, group size, abilities, firepower, or have any intel.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:56 am to
Last night's episode made me wish they were all 90 minutes.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:56 am to
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Enid is just too obvious a guess so I'm going with Ron for now.


Plus Carl still needs to get some. When he sat down next to her she put her hand on his.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:57 am to
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Or they were leading them to a large pit where they could be dispatched with fire?


So, they lead them out of a large pit to take them 20 miles down the road to another large pit? Unless they bring it up in later episodes, it just seems odd to not explain what the end of the plan was.

I did like how they set up this large pit without it being completely out of the blue. The president lady told Rick to bring the body west since they never go that way. It made sense that they would have no idea a walker pit existed.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 9:57 am to
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Waste of fuel when they can be herded.


I don't think so. Toss a couple in the pit and they would stumble around and catch each other on fire. They are all so close together it wouldn't take much. In theory, anyway.
Posted by NATidefan
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:00 am to
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It needed to be cleared. The sound was pulling more and more.


This, and saying why not just burn them is pretty dumb to be honest. We know fire doesn't kill walkers, and there's no way they could get enough gas to burn all of them or even 1/10 of them enough to immobilize them. You'd just have a bunch of charred zombies, bodies don't burn that well. Plus gas is probably a pretty high commodity and not something you want to waste. If someone new how to build a fertilizer bomb that might have worked, but you'd never really know what the outcome of that was gonna be.

I do think they should have started by containing the quarry better, then built the wall to herd them out though.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 10:01 am
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:00 am to
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So, they lead them out of a large pit to take them 20 miles down the road to another large pit? Unless they bring it up in later episodes, it just seems odd to not explain what the end of the plan was.


Anyone's guess is as good as mine at this point. Honestly, the lamest answer is probably the correct answer: They were going to lead them 20 miles way. Sasha and Abraham would bail from the car, letting the walkers chase after it. Darryl would cut off from the pack as well. Flares would be fired in the opposite direction, and the herd would just shamble off in the opposite direction of Alexandria.
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