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Butter beans versus Lima beans
Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:47 am
Just to make sure everyone is straight on the subject for the WFDT and other threads.
The way I grew up
This is a butter bean:
This is a dry white Lima bean:
Growing up my dad grew butter beans in the garden. We would shell and mom would cook in a large pot seasoned with bacon grease. They would normally be eaten with cornbread, bacon, onion and peppers. Mom would make homemade, from scratch yellow corn bread.
The dry white limas were bought at the grocery store in a clear bag. Mom would cook in a large pot with bacon grease for seasoning and throw in a big ole ham-bone. They would be eaten with cornbread, bacon, onion, and milk (until I discovered it was even better with strawberry Kool-Aid). Mom would make homemade from scratch, white corn bread. The liquid would be like a gravy and I would mash the beans with my fork to make what I had dry and then add more of the liquid. Great stuff !!!
It wasn't the Goya brand and the bag was much larger but this is what the dry whites looked like.
I have really been wanting both of these but they don't serve either in restaurants anymore so I am going to have to learn to make them. I have the recipes for the cornbreads.
Just be sure to use the above (correct) terminology in all food and bean related threads in the future.
Quick recap:
dry white lima
Butter Bean
Oops, butter bean
The way I grew up
This is a butter bean:
This is a dry white Lima bean:
Growing up my dad grew butter beans in the garden. We would shell and mom would cook in a large pot seasoned with bacon grease. They would normally be eaten with cornbread, bacon, onion and peppers. Mom would make homemade, from scratch yellow corn bread.
The dry white limas were bought at the grocery store in a clear bag. Mom would cook in a large pot with bacon grease for seasoning and throw in a big ole ham-bone. They would be eaten with cornbread, bacon, onion, and milk (until I discovered it was even better with strawberry Kool-Aid). Mom would make homemade from scratch, white corn bread. The liquid would be like a gravy and I would mash the beans with my fork to make what I had dry and then add more of the liquid. Great stuff !!!
It wasn't the Goya brand and the bag was much larger but this is what the dry whites looked like.
I have really been wanting both of these but they don't serve either in restaurants anymore so I am going to have to learn to make them. I have the recipes for the cornbreads.
Just be sure to use the above (correct) terminology in all food and bean related threads in the future.
Quick recap:
dry white lima
Butter Bean
Oops, butter bean
Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:49 am to Tiger Ree
I grew up with different terminology...."butter beans" are the small, dry white limas, maybe so named because they cook up to the color of butter? AKA feves plats in French, which is also Cajun french slang for a lackluster, lazy, or unambitious person.
Baby green limas are called just that: baby green limas.
Isn't language fun?
Baby green limas are called just that: baby green limas.
Isn't language fun?
Posted on 8/26/15 at 10:10 am to Tiger Ree
quote:
Just to make sure everyone is straight on the subject for the WFDT and other threads.
The way I grew up
I'm straight on how you grew up. I grew up the opposite. But really we're both right... or wrong. They are technically the same: Phaseolus lunatus. Here's how I view them.
Limas:
Butter beans:
Both are awesome. But I prefer these guys, the speckled butter bean:
Or better still, the butter pea
Posted on 8/26/15 at 10:32 am to Tiger Ree
My grandmother called them all butter beans. And grew them all in her garden. I HATE the speckled ones, and it would disappoint me to no end when she'd say "We're having butterbeans, fried chicken, pintos and cornbread" and she's serve up those stupid speckled ones. Blecch. How I miss that lady.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:10 am to Tiger Ree
Small green were baby limas. Large green were butterbeans. Speckled are speckled butter beans. I love lady cream peas. I got some fresh shelled a few weeks ago. Heavenly.
I use some bacon grease and a smoked hock. Kartchner's smoked hocks are great. I add the hock to the bacon grease and saute that a bit, then I add onions and sweat those. Add whatever liquid I'm using after that and let the hock and onions simmer in that for about an hour before I add the peas or beans. Makes a great stock without overpowering the fresh taste of the peas or beans.
Same with purple hull peas. I haven't had the pinkeyes in a while, though. They're delicious, too.
I use some bacon grease and a smoked hock. Kartchner's smoked hocks are great. I add the hock to the bacon grease and saute that a bit, then I add onions and sweat those. Add whatever liquid I'm using after that and let the hock and onions simmer in that for about an hour before I add the peas or beans. Makes a great stock without overpowering the fresh taste of the peas or beans.
Same with purple hull peas. I haven't had the pinkeyes in a while, though. They're delicious, too.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:34 am to Tiger Ree
I call them all delicious. Locally they grow what's called a Chackbay bean. Those are great too, similar to a field pea.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:24 pm to Tiger Ree
Butter beans
Butter beans with cabbage, Rice and gravy, cornbread hoe cake and hamburger steak
More - get the idea?
We don't do Lima Beans at our house.
Green beans French cut
Pink Eye Purple Hull Peas
Pink Eye Purple hull peas, round steak, potatoes and gravy, whole kernel corn and cornbread
I didn't know this was complicated. For over 65 years it has been pretty simple.
Butter beans with cabbage, Rice and gravy, cornbread hoe cake and hamburger steak
More - get the idea?
We don't do Lima Beans at our house.
Green beans French cut
Pink Eye Purple Hull Peas
Pink Eye Purple hull peas, round steak, potatoes and gravy, whole kernel corn and cornbread
I didn't know this was complicated. For over 65 years it has been pretty simple.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:31 pm to Tiger Ree
WTF is this shite??
Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:18 pm to Tiger Ree
Posted on 8/26/15 at 4:04 pm to Tiger Ree
I've always preferred speckled butterbeans over lima and regular butterbeans. I prefer the "nutty/earthy" taste of them over the others.
I can make a meal out of butterbeans and fried cornbread.
I can make a meal out of butterbeans and fried cornbread.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 4:12 pm to Tiger Ree
Yup. My father grew butter beans. No one will try this, and it's a shame, but it's amazing what some sugar in the pot will do to butter beans. No bacon, and served over rice. Damn I miss those.
Posted on 8/26/15 at 4:27 pm to Tiger Ree
I believe Willie Mae's Scotch House has "butter beans" that are what we always called large white lima beans...they were good with a subtle seasoning flavor that I couldn't quite identify...I wondered at the time if it might be file'...
Our butterbeans were always gray/brown, not green or white. I also liked the speckled ones. Wish I had a bowl of them now!
Our butterbeans were always gray/brown, not green or white. I also liked the speckled ones. Wish I had a bowl of them now!
Posted on 8/26/15 at 4:32 pm to Tiger Ree
I grew up with the big white ones being butter and the green ones being lima.
I like em mushy and "saucy" like the white ones in the OP
I like em mushy and "saucy" like the white ones in the OP
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 8/26/15 at 5:06 pm to Tiger Ree
I grew up calling the butter beans "baby limas" and they were always a side dish with something else.
The big white lima beans (just called them lima beans) were always cooked like red beans (with hamhock and/or sausage) and always served over rice as a main dish. It wasn't until I was grown that I finally saw the big limas as a side item without rice. Same thing with black-eyed peas. I always had them served over rice. Mind-blowing stuff.
The big white lima beans (just called them lima beans) were always cooked like red beans (with hamhock and/or sausage) and always served over rice as a main dish. It wasn't until I was grown that I finally saw the big limas as a side item without rice. Same thing with black-eyed peas. I always had them served over rice. Mind-blowing stuff.
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 8/26/15 at 6:59 pm to Tiger Ree
6 'o one, half dozen of the other. Pass the corn bread!!
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