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re: No charges filed against Jennings, Bain & Thomas
Posted on 8/2/15 at 5:55 pm to atltiger6487
Posted on 8/2/15 at 5:55 pm to atltiger6487
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Uh, it was the national championship game. Lose by 1 or lose by 20, it's the same. And oh by the way, we DID get "blown out" with JJ at QB the whole game, 21-0.
The point was that Miles and the Tigers were still trying to win the game and weren't going to throw in the towel as you suggested they should have done
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:00 pm to blueboy
Jordan Jefferson is a better quarterback when compared to Jennings
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:05 pm to logjamming
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Jennings will be a mediocre three year starter
if he beats out Harris and winds up as the starter. If he beats out Harris that would mean he is the less "mediocre" of the two. I expect both to be better than mediocre this season with the added emphasis on trying to develop a more effective offense this season. Seems that MILes/Cam have come to the realization that a good offense that can move the chains and put points on the board is actually a good thing.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:23 pm to boxcar willie
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The point was that Miles and the Tigers were still trying to win the game and weren't going to throw in the towel as you suggested they should have done
My god you're a moron.
Throwing in the towel was keeping JJ at QB and not trying something else. So Les kept Lee on the bench and, predictably, we did nothing on offense and lost 21-0.
Keep on supporting that strategy. The rest of the nation will continue to scratch it's collective head in disbelief.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:48 pm to atltiger6487
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The rest of the nation will continue to scratch it's collective head in disbelief.
the rest of the nation probably wasn't as well aware of Lee's capabilities against attacking style defenses as was Miles and most of the fan base who regularly watched LSU football
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:49 pm to atltiger6487
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My god your a moran.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:52 pm to atltiger6487
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Throwing in the towel was keeping JJ at QB and not trying something else
throwing in the towel would have been inserting Lee into the game.
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My god you're a moron.
well you are a retard
moron > retard
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:19 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Jordan Jefferson was better then Jennings at QB
They were and are thugs who should have never played after their run ins with the law and by doing so they lowered / lower LSU chances to establish a national signing of a true 5 star QB , not with just physical attributes but intelligent enough to read and dominate SEC defenses
Not only that but a certain Mississippi State QB who was refused a LSU signing.offer at QB,as LSU evaluated him only as a defensive back , beat the crap out of us in 2014 and is a candidate for Heisman again in 2015. Now that is the irony of LSU 's pitiful current status at QB. And for those who think that it takes 2-3 years for a QB to develop I ask how long did it take Mullen to develop Prescott to star at QB in the SEC.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:43 pm to Roarforthetigers
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They were and are thugs who should have never played after their run ins with the law and by doing so they lowered / lower LSU chances to establish a national signing of a true 5 star QB , not with just physical attributes but intelligent enough to read and dominate SEC defense
Zach Mettenberger sexually assaulting a woman was by far the worst offense of our recent QBs. Did you have a problem with him starting?
Anthony Jennings was never even charged with a crime, and yet you want him kicked off the team.
How about you sit this one out and let the real LSU fans cheer for our tigers.
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how long did it take Mullen to develop Prescott
He didn't start until his redshirt junior season. That's his FOURTH year in the program little buddy.
You've truly outdone yourself here.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:49 pm to Roarforthetigers
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And for those who think that it takes 2-3 years for a QB to develop I ask how long did it take Mullen to develop Prescott to star at QB in the SEC.
Uh.... you realize that Dak Prescott was a redshirt junior last year, right? That's 4 years before he had an impact..... at Mississippi State.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:05 pm to atltiger6487
quote:First, Cameron was not a coach for the BCSCG.quote:You sure about that? 1/9/12????
Miles and Cameron have never played a QB who did not give LSU the best chance to win.
Second, the BCSCG is a good example of Miles playing the QB who gave LSU the best chance to win.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:10 pm to atltiger6487
quote:Lee had TWO other starts in the regular season in which he completed less than 50% of his passes: Oregon and Kentucky. Those two teams had two of the five worst defensive rankings of all of the teams LSU faced in the 2011 regular season.quote:Lee had a bad game against Bama, I fully acknowledge that. But he had a good year otherwise.
Lee had a bad game against Bama, I fully acknowledge that. But he had a good year otherwise.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:12 pm to tigerpawl
quote:Lee had TWO other starts in the regular season in which he completed less than 50% of his passes: Oregon and Kentucky. Those two teams had two of the five worst defensive rankings of all of the teams LSU faced in the 2011 regular season.quote:This little factoid always seems to get swept under the rug when trying to make sense out of 1/9/12. Lee carried the water for most of the year. Did the "one strike and you're out" rule only apply to Lee?? It appears that it did.
Lee had a bad game against Bama, I fully acknowledge that. But he had a good year otherwise.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:14 pm to atltiger6487
quote:I love when Jefferson haters post ignorant bullshite. It provides such a teachable moment.
Chilge: if you're honesty arguing that we had a shot of coming back on 1/9/12 with JJ still at QB, then there's no hope for you.
One of the most horrific offensive performances, perhaps in LSU history
You think it was "One of the most horrific offensive performances, perhaps in LSU history,..."?
In the BCSCG, Jefferson had a QB Rating of 79.13 and a completion percentage of 64.71%.
In the 2008 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 69.13 and a completion percentage of 38.24%.
In the 2009 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 56.96 and a completion percentage of 40.00%.
In the 2010 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 137.54 and a completion percentage of 57.14%.
In the 2011 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 14.52 and a completion percentage of 42.19%.
Comparing Lee's QB Rating against Alabama to Jefferson's QB Rating against Alabama in the BCSCG, Lee had a higher QB Rating against Alabama only ONE time in Lee's entire career.
Comparing Lee's completion percentage against Alabama to Jefferson's completion percentage against Alabama in the BCSCG, Lee NEVER had a higher completion percentage against Alabama in Lee's entire career.
Perhaps you need to brush up on your offensive performances during the Lee era.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:18 pm to atltiger6487
quote:I believe that reasonable minds can disagree on whether Miles should have substituted Lee for Jefferson in the BCSCG. Lee might have mixed things up. Lee might have sparked the team. However, the odds were not in Lee's favor. He was exactly the kind of QB that Alabama's defense feasted on: an immobile pocket passer. His history against Alabama confirms that statement, and his hisotry against Alabama can be fairly described as abysmal.quote:So your answer is just keep going with JJ, which CLEARLY wasn't working. No use trying to find a spark or change momentum in some way. Just settle for second place. Got it. Wonderful attitude.
and you're argueing to put in Lee against one of the most aggressive hard hitting defenses in college football history? Holy shite man. Lee was a very good QB but no way could he handle that kind of defense. If you wanted to make changes just to make changes, why not put in the second string o-line as well?
On the other hand, Jefferson as QB slowed the Bama rush down. Moreover, Jefferson's ability to lead a second half comeback in 2011 was rock solid before the BCSCG.
Many fans did not think at halftime of the GOTC that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. However, in OT, Jefferson executed a perfect short-side option to Ford which put LSU in position for victory.
LSU beat Alabama at their house in the GOTC.
Many fans did not think with four minutes left in the half and LSU trailing 14-7 against Arkansas that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. However, Jefferson passed for 208 yards, LSU's second highest passing total of the season, and Jefferson rushed for an additional 53 yards, all against the #3 team in the nation which positioned LSU for victory.
LSU blew the doors off of Arkansas, won the SEC West, and earned an invitation in the SECCG.
Many fans did not think at halftime with LSU trailing 10-7 to Georgia in the SECCG that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. However, Jefferson executed options and zone reads to near perfection, and he threw a TD pass to Hilliard as LSU's offense scored FOUR TDs against a Top Five defense in their own backyard.
LSU rushed for over 200 yards, and Jefferson being the QB was an integral part of that, and LSU blew out Georgia and earned the right to play in the BCSCG.
So, of course, many fans did not think at halftime of Jan 9 that Jefferson was going to bring LSU to victory. Unfortunately, the stars were aligned against LSU that night. They never got the spark they needed against a totally amped up Alabama team that was desperate for redemption. However, Jefferson completed nearly 65% of his passes despite his porous offensive line. Had LSU been able to continue to switch it up and throw more in the second half of the BCSCG, it might have been a different story. However, the line could not hold Alabama back long enough to give Jefferson time to throw.
Jefferson played in FOUR huge games in 2011: the GOTC, the Arkansas game, the SECCG, and the BCSCG. At halftime, or four minutes before the half, LSU was losing in each of those games. Nevertheless, Miles showed faith in Jefferson, and Jefferson delivered in every game but one.
Thus, in my opinion, given the three HUGE games before the BCSCG, a reasonable mind could rationally choose to stick with Jefferson for the second half of the BCSCG because it had worked well in the three previous HUGE games.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:25 pm to Salviati
Holy shite! This shite all cracks me up so much.
:rotflmao
Ignorant fcktards just can't let the debate go. MUST fight on. Might win the internet trophy one day.
:rotflmao
Ignorant fcktards just can't let the debate go. MUST fight on. Might win the internet trophy one day.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:43 pm to notiger1997
I don't even disagree with that dude, but he needs to give it up. He cares wayyy too much about the QB controversy of 4 seasons ago. There's practically nobody left on the team who even played with those guys.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:03 pm to Salviati
perfect short-side option
no u dint
no u dint
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:23 am to Salviati
at propping up his UGA game
also:
also:
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 12:34 am
Posted on 8/3/15 at 12:49 am to atltiger6487
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Keep on supporting that strategy. The rest of the nation will continue to scratch it's collective head in disbelief
When you start listening to "the rest of the nation" you've already lost.
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