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High school grade inflation is worse than you think

Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:20 am
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:20 am
I had no idea it was this bad - 88% of entering Freshman have a H.S. GPA above 3.0.

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I would bet this is almost entirely due to TOPS.
Posted by Bourre
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:22 am to
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I would bet this is almost entirely due to teacher unions.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 11:23 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:23 am to
What exactly do teacher unions have to do with inflated grades?

If anything, I'd think it would have a lot more to do with the No Child Left Behind Act, which punishes schools for failing students. The singularly worst piece of education legislation to have ever been passed probably.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 11:27 am
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:24 am to
Where were these teachers when I was in high school?!
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:24 am to
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would bet this is almost entirely due to Obama.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:24 am to
How can an entering freshman have a HS GPA?
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:25 am to
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SpidermanTUba



Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:25 am to
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due to Obama.


GWB. NCLB.

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Three days after taking office in January 2001 as the 43rd President of the United States, George W. Bush announced No Child Left Behind, his framework for bipartisan education reform that he described as "the cornerstone of my Administration."


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This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 11:26 am
Posted by Not Cooper
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:26 am to
Because they are just entering college which means they have completed high school.
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:28 am to
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What exactly do teacher unions have to do with inflated grades? If anything, I'd think it would have a lot more to do with the No Child Left Behind Act, that punishes schools for failing students. The singularly worst piece of education legislation to have ever been passed probably. This post was edited on 7/16 at 11:24 am

We have a winner. If I get punished for having failing students, what is in it for me to be honest about their grades from an employment stand point? Furthermore, look at schools inside of a school district. Take a C average student at a "mid to high SES" populated school, put him in a low SES school and he is a B to A student. It's the game and it has a zero sum.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:29 am to
Yeah. Guess it would have helped to click on the link.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:30 am to
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I had no idea it was this bad


You haven't been going to HS graduations for the past 6 to 8 years, then, baw, where they have 10 or 11 Valedictorians.
Posted by PacLSU
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:35 am to
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due to Obama.


GWB. NCLB.

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Three days after taking office in January 2001 as the 43rd President of the United States, George W. Bush announced No Child Left Behind, his framework for bipartisan education reform that he described as "the cornerstone of my Administration."


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Good job you guys! Because the most important thing here is to determine which President of the United States we can blame for this problem.
Posted by bird35
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:35 am to
Teacher evaluations are now tied to student and parent satisfaction surveys (at least in Georgia but I think many States do this).

So yes teachers now need to be liked by parents and students. 95% of students and parents like teachers in whose class they received a good grade.

95% is students and parents also feel if a student made a good grade then they learned a lot.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:36 am to
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Because the most important thing here is to determine which President of the United States we can blame for this problem.


Well if it is a problem, then yeah... Identifying the cause is pretty important.

If it's not a problem, then I suppose it's inconsequential.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 11:37 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:37 am to
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SpidermanTUba


Meg.....


Who let you back in the house?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:37 am to
How is that any different from letting in minorities that have lower GPA's than the standard admission requirements and get to go to a school simply because of the color of their skin?
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:38 am to
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I'd think it would have a lot more to do with the No Child Left Behind Act, which punishes schools for failing students.


I think u smart....seriously.

No Child Left Behind Act of 2001.

The amount of 3.0 to 4.0 jumps from 65% to 82% from 2001 to 2002....YO!!!
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:38 am to
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Teacher evaluations are now tied to student and parent satisfaction surveys (at least in Georgia but I think many States do this

In La, they are linked to Evals from supervisor and student test scores. So, put on the dog and pony show when the bosses are walking around. Then, teach to the test. They do need to know content knowledge, but it's more test taking skills.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:39 am to
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Teacher evaluations are now tied to student and parent satisfaction surveys (at least in Georgia but I think many States do this).

So yes teachers now need to be liked by parents and students. 95% of students and parents like teachers in whose class they received a good grade.

95% is students and parents also feel if a student made a good grade then they learned a lot.


Thankfully not the way it works in Alabama, but you're exactly right.

Looking back, some of the worst teachers I ever had were lazy fricks that I had super high grades in... but at the time I was convinced they were the best - because they made my life easy. My least favorite teachers at the time were the ones that I thought were hardest. They were often the best. I understand that, but that's flawed thinking - and exactly why teacher evaluations shouldn't have anything to do with parent/teacher satisfaction surveys.
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