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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:27 pm to tigerskin
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Does the following make sense to you?
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We are on this earth, shite happens, people have free will etc.
Yes
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God doesn't interfere, just judges our life as a whole
No
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If there is an afterlife, the time on here would be miniscule be it 5 years or so 100. Would that be reasonable?
There isn't an afterlife
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:27 pm to OMLandshark
All I'm saying in this thread since it's run its course for me is that people who belive in "God's plan" mean the same exact thing when they say those two statements. Also, I doubt you would invite someone to the funeral that would say something to you that they know would cause you anger and pain and have you end the relationship right then and there.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:27 pm to tigerskin
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:28 pm to CoCo311
Correct me if I'm wrong...but don't a lot of people believe that God IS an a-hole? And not all loving & what not? Jesus is the loving one. Correct?
Tryin not to turn this into a thread on religion but it's headed that way. Lol
Tryin not to turn this into a thread on religion but it's headed that way. Lol
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:28 pm to jwall3
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He keeps saying "if". Until it's actual loss, he is simply speculating.
Well, I don't want to argue with you, but while I didn't lose my child, I lost my best friend at the time, and I can tell you how I felt at the time about that explanation. If anything, I'm quite confident I'd take the loss of my child much, much worse if someone said that to me.
But serious, kudos to you for your faith, and I have no desire to break you of it. I'm just telling you how I've felt it in the past.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:30 pm to Schmelly
I'm fairly confident that every other person you asked would have a different view, interpretation, live by certain things, while ignoring others.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:30 pm to CoCo311
You meant it for evil, but God meant it for good. (Joseph's words to his brothers who had plotted to kill him and then sold him into slavery) so, I believe God has a purpose for all things that we cannot comprehend. It may seem bad to us, but God could be using the circumstance for good. The primacy of God's perspective is required for this to make sense. We live in much to autonomous a world for most to see this is all about God. But as I stated before, I'm not here to rationalize that. I know most will scoff at it. I pray they never experience such loss.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:31 pm to GRTiger
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Also, I doubt you would invite someone to the funeral that would say something to you that they know would cause you anger and pain and have you end the relationship right then and there.
To be honest, I can't say for certain this wouldn't happen at a funeral for my child. It's not like a wedding where I have months to go over the guest list. A visitation is often 2 days after the death, so I'd likely allow anyone in that door that I don't downright loathe. I can think of a few people on the top of my head that would likely show up to my funeral that would say this crap to my parents sadly.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:32 pm to OMLandshark
Sorry for the loss of your friend.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:33 pm to Schmelly
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Tryin not to turn this into a thread on religion but it's headed that way. Lol
Agreed. And even though it's ventured more to religion in general, than coping with a loss, I think everyone's point is that everyone is going to deal with it in a different way. There is little to nothing that can be said to offer comfort (especially if you don't know a persons view point. This is why I have funeral anxiety, never know what to say.) I don't think anyone is going to begrudge another persons coping mechanism, whether they agree with it or not. Unless it becomes detrimental to their or others health/well being.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:36 pm to CoCo311
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This is why I have funeral anxiety, never know what to say.
This is easy really, "I'm sorry for your loss". If you're really close to a person involved, tell them you're there for them to chat if they need you, or for any real other need. They will appreciate that.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:37 pm to windshieldman
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It's reality. Sure it sucks for the family, but you don't have to be 80+ years old to die. The rest of the world will continue as normal
While this is cold it's also true and probably one of the more cruel things about life
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:38 pm to jwall3
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Sorry for the loss of your friend.
Thanks, but I feel worse for you. I'm almost 28 now, and that was sadly almost half a lifetime ago. I really hope things go better for you and your family, and I will pray for yall.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:39 pm to CoCo311
Funeral Anxiety huh? I once had a friend that was so petrified at a funeral that when he ran into the daughter of the deceased outside of the church, he asked "soooo, your mom & all are inside?" It was her mom's funeral. Ouch
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:41 pm to Schmelly
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Funeral Anxiety huh? I once had a friend that was so petrified at a funeral that when he ran into the daughter of the deceased outside of the church, he asked "soooo, your mom & all are inside?" It was her mom's funeral. Ouch
Well, he fricked up there.
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:41 pm to OMLandshark
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"I'm sorry for your loss
That just seems so impersonal.
It probably doesn't help that I've been so very fortunate to not lose anyone really close to me, so I may lack a certain amount of empathy required to find the necessary words.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:42 pm to CoCo311
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Agreed. And even though it's ventured more to religion in general, than coping with a loss, I think everyone's point is that everyone is going to deal with it in a different way. There is little to nothing that can be said to offer comfort (especially if you don't know a persons view point. This is why I have funeral anxiety, never know what to say.) I don't think anyone is going to begrudge another persons coping mechanism, whether they agree with it or not. Unless it becomes detrimental to their or others health/well being.
That's why it's stupid to start these threads. Death is a part of life, it doesn't make sense and doesn't have to, end of story
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:43 pm to OMLandshark
Poor guy. We were in 8th grade. It was his girlfriend at the time
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:43 pm to CoCo311
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That just seems so impersonal.
It probably doesn't help that I've been so very fortunate to not lose anyone really close to me, so I may lack a certain amount of empathy required to find the necessary words.
Friend lost a very young child. He said the only person at the time who brought him comfort just told him "Im here if you need me." Everyone else just said what they thought they were supposed to say.
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