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re: Thinking about joining the military soon and...
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:31 pm to bmy
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:31 pm to bmy
I went enlisted Army initially and am now an officer because of the education benefits. I would have struggled trying to get through college with it! What do you want to do? How old are you? Do you want to do something hard core or something that directly translates to the civilian life?
What I wish I "HAD DONE" is airborne infantry and all the cool schools while I was young and then changed MOS later (or get a commission.) There's a ton of valuable information that can only be learned in a combat arms role no mater what the branch is. We are all infantry first. Three years of that and you will learn about all the other cool jobs or even some pog jobs (combat support.) If you have an idea for your future, find a job that will help get your foot in the door.
What I wish I "HAD DONE" is airborne infantry and all the cool schools while I was young and then changed MOS later (or get a commission.) There's a ton of valuable information that can only be learned in a combat arms role no mater what the branch is. We are all infantry first. Three years of that and you will learn about all the other cool jobs or even some pog jobs (combat support.) If you have an idea for your future, find a job that will help get your foot in the door.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 11:39 pm
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:35 pm to The Program
Lol. Like Air Force guys know what to do with a female.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:45 pm to supatigah
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The other guy went in to the Navy, joined the submarine nuclear corps and now has a masters in physics. He is still an officer and told me he loves every bit of it.
Where are you from? I feel like I know the exact same guy or his clone.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:02 am to CJM
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Which is the best branch? Talking benefits, living conditions, etc.
Benefits are the same all over. Living conditions, Air Force.
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A 51 on the ASVAB is pretty shitty, no? I feel like my recruiter is bullshiteting me lol.
51 is about average. Not horrible, but not great. Line scores will determine what jobs you qualify for.
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How do you feel your time served affected you? Positively, negatively, etc.
Positively? I'm more disciplined, confident, and organized than I was before I joined. Got to see the world, make friendships that'll last a life time, and really learn about life. Getting out of Louisiana for a few years was nice as well. Military service looks great on a resume'. Health, dental, base housing is all covered (you get a housing allowance to get a place in town once you reach a certain rank, fyi)
Negatives? The political bullshite. Taking orders from complete mouth breathers and having to respect them just because of what they wear on their collar/arm sleeve (rank). Turning a simple task into nuclear physics is the norm. Doing things the arse backwards way, and what I like to call the "frick-up-move-up program". The harder you frick up, the easier job you get wherever you're assigned.
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How is basic training?
It's all a mind game as others have said. IMO the hardest part of boot camp (Navy btw) was the first 2 weeks, just adjusting to the way the Navy wants you to do things and the military lifestyle in general. After the first 2 weeks, it was smooth sailing from there. Had some good times in boot camp (one guy in our division tried to perform an exorcism on us to stop us from being undisciplined
), and it was a great feeling marching across that drill deck come graduation day. If you do end up joining, make sure everything your recruiter promises you is on paper. If you have college credits or JROTC classes from high school, you can go into boot camp as an E-2 or possibly an E-3, which means more money in your pocket. "Shop around" at all the different branches, see what the recruiters have to say..hell, bring a friend with you who was prior service if you have one. Good luck
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 12:06 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:04 am to CJM
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So basically the specific score on each part of the ASVAB? I gotcha. Thanks.
Actually called line scores. Certain MOS have line score minimums.
If you go Army, know your GT score, if it's under 110, you will be considered mildly retarded by your barracks mates. It also will eliminate you from future opportunities for OCS/WOC school.
Good luck with your decision. Military life isn't for everybody; but even if it's not what you want to make a career out of enjoy your time and the bonds you'll make.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:31 am to CJM
The navy was a blast in the 90's. Plus you ain't getting shot at. It was pretty much like a 7-3 job just with shitty pay and you had to stay on base/ship once a week for your 24 hour duty/watch. I did 3 Mediterranean cruises (Med Cruise's) and had a fantastic time. I think they all pay the same with the same benefits. Then I got married and it sucked.
Edit to say DO NOT MARRY A MILITARY WOMAN and if you can help it don't get into any serious relationships. I loved the one navy base I was stationed at that shite was on the beach. That's what is so great being in the navy all the bases were near the beach lol. Doesn't matter either if you want to be a cop when you get out any police force should hire because the government should pay a portion of your salary. So go with a job that is plentiful where you live. If you live by Plants do something that can get you on at Marathon, if you like cooking go for chef in the Navy. I loved being a chef we got first shot at all new women coming aboard. They had to work for me for 30-90 days. Ummm party favorites as we called them lol.
Edit to say DO NOT MARRY A MILITARY WOMAN and if you can help it don't get into any serious relationships. I loved the one navy base I was stationed at that shite was on the beach. That's what is so great being in the navy all the bases were near the beach lol. Doesn't matter either if you want to be a cop when you get out any police force should hire because the government should pay a portion of your salary. So go with a job that is plentiful where you live. If you live by Plants do something that can get you on at Marathon, if you like cooking go for chef in the Navy. I loved being a chef we got first shot at all new women coming aboard. They had to work for me for 30-90 days. Ummm party favorites as we called them lol.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 12:44 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:42 am to CJM
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A 51 on the ASVAB is pretty shitty, no? I feel like my recruiter is bullshitting me lol
This is the only one I'll answer.
A 51 fricking sucks.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:44 am to vodkacop
If you want respect and to never question whether you have made a difference in the world, join the Marines. Been in 8 years and cannot describe the feeling I get everyday putting on this uniform. Other perks: our uniform looks the best, you will be in the best shape of your life (a lot better shape than the other branches), and you will never have felt so confident in yourself and what you are capable of. Temper Fidelis
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:47 am to Clames
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A 51 on the ASVAB is pretty shitty, no? I feel like my recruiter is bullshitting me lol.
I think that means you are clinically retarded.
this. the asvab asks you shite like "which one is a triangle?" and "match the sound to the animal"
Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:06 am to scormi51
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join the Marines
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Temper Fidelis
I agree that marines always have a temper.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:23 am to CJM
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A 51 on the ASVAB is pretty shitty, no?
You may not be qualified to plunge the fricking toilets.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 5:24 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:30 am to TigersSEC2010
A 51 is unsat. Dude must have gone A,B,C,D the whole way through.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:42 am to CJM
Air Force has the best living conditions and a steady lifestyle. Picking a good job in the air force is key, do your research. I had a blast and I do miss it sometimes. The other services were jealous when they came to our base and seen how good we had it. I would recommend joining the Air Force. Once you get past basic training, you'll be alright.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:51 am to CJM
They got different jobs in all branches and depends on your score.
Go air force especially if you want to make it a career.
My mos was the same as in the Air Force. We got up 3 am to do PT, clean barracks, March to chow, and get ready to get on cattle cars to go
to our training class. AIT was like basic training until we got out of total control. When I went to change my mos to got reserves after serving RA it wasn't much better.
Air Force the poor babies got up 6:00 am in their suite, went to a nice mess hall, and got on air conditioned buses to get to the same training class. After class they were left to do what they wanted.(Wow that seems rough to me poor babies).
I wasin the army and joined at 17 yrs old if I can do it you can. It's mind games if you get use to the bull it gets easier. We have people slightly mentally handicap or not all there pass. Those guys were the best at shooting which is scary.
Go air force especially if you want to make it a career.
My mos was the same as in the Air Force. We got up 3 am to do PT, clean barracks, March to chow, and get ready to get on cattle cars to go
to our training class. AIT was like basic training until we got out of total control. When I went to change my mos to got reserves after serving RA it wasn't much better.
Air Force the poor babies got up 6:00 am in their suite, went to a nice mess hall, and got on air conditioned buses to get to the same training class. After class they were left to do what they wanted.(Wow that seems rough to me poor babies).
I wasin the army and joined at 17 yrs old if I can do it you can. It's mind games if you get use to the bull it gets easier. We have people slightly mentally handicap or not all there pass. Those guys were the best at shooting which is scary.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:57 am to johnnyrocket
Yup don't go into a unit that your captain was a former airborne ranger. The first words out of his mouth when I got to the unit was how would you like to jump out of a plane. Don't volunteer like I did they painted me a rosy picture.
Guess what school you will be going to running everywhere for a few weeks. They use to hand that out like candy in the 1980's and early 1990's.
I still don't know how they suckered me into jumping out of a perfectly good aircraft.
Guess what school you will be going to running everywhere for a few weeks. They use to hand that out like candy in the 1980's and early 1990's.
I still don't know how they suckered me into jumping out of a perfectly good aircraft.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:58 am to CJM
I'll sound off on this 'un.... I'm a retired 21 year Navy Submarine Vet and 3 years contracting in several 'stan' countries after leaving active duty.
Of all the branches, and looking back at my own experiences, Submarines were a good choice for me personally. HOWEVER, I've worked with every branch and ultimately there were possibly two 'better' choices to be made.
The Air Force would've appealed to my lazy, mooching side. You get in to one particular job rating and that's what you'll do (pretty much) for as long as your in. Make no mistake, they work, but do a good job for 'em and they'll take care of ya.
The other choice would've been the Coast Guard. They appealed to my gung-ho, no shite, bust your butt, git'r'dun side. Regardless of the job rating you qualify for/choose, there a dozen other 'jobs' you can qualify for/do once your 'in'. Boarding parties, weapons teams, etc., plus all the other various skills needed (and in high demand for in the civilian world) for operations along the coasts, inland water ways, open ocean, and even overseas operations from time to time. The Coasties are the ones you see during natural disasters, like hurricanes, on TV rescuing puppies, children, etc. They also have bases ALL OVER the costal U.S. so you have many opportunities of seeing many places without having to leave 'home' so to speak.
The Army and Marine Corps are also good choices but they weren't for me.
Of all the branches, and looking back at my own experiences, Submarines were a good choice for me personally. HOWEVER, I've worked with every branch and ultimately there were possibly two 'better' choices to be made.
The Air Force would've appealed to my lazy, mooching side. You get in to one particular job rating and that's what you'll do (pretty much) for as long as your in. Make no mistake, they work, but do a good job for 'em and they'll take care of ya.
The other choice would've been the Coast Guard. They appealed to my gung-ho, no shite, bust your butt, git'r'dun side. Regardless of the job rating you qualify for/choose, there a dozen other 'jobs' you can qualify for/do once your 'in'. Boarding parties, weapons teams, etc., plus all the other various skills needed (and in high demand for in the civilian world) for operations along the coasts, inland water ways, open ocean, and even overseas operations from time to time. The Coasties are the ones you see during natural disasters, like hurricanes, on TV rescuing puppies, children, etc. They also have bases ALL OVER the costal U.S. so you have many opportunities of seeing many places without having to leave 'home' so to speak.
The Army and Marine Corps are also good choices but they weren't for me.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 6:02 am to BowlJackson
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The Air Force hate/disrespect from the other branches comes mostly from jealous grunts that got stuck as machine gunners because they were too stupid to qualify for a good job
No, i would say its because of this way of thinking that leads many in the Army/Marines to think of Air Force personel differently. Get off your high horse. If you want to use the military and get a job when you get out, join the Air Force or Navy. If you want to serve your country in a different way and see combat and be able to carry around that distinguished honor, then join the Army or Marines. Each branch has its purpose. Choose wisely!
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 6:04 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 6:06 am to CJM
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Which is the best branch? Talking benefits, living conditions
Air Force for the best living conditions by far. I used to live in barracks the Air Force would condemn.
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* A 51 on the ASVAB is pretty shitty, no? I feel like my recruiter is bullshiteting me lol
51 for the Army and Marines will get you a number of MOS choices. 51 for the Air Force will get you laughed at.
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* How do you feel your time served affected you? Positively, negatively, etc.
Positively, I have learned a great trade that will earn me more money on the outside. I have had some of the best times of my life and memories that will last a lifetime. I have also made some of the best friends I will ever make. The only negative I personally have is being away from my wife and daughters. I will be out soon enough, so that will no longer be an issue.
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How is basic training?
Depends on you really. It was mentally and phsically tough for me. I have heard that basic has eased up a lot but who knows.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 6:11 am to CJM
Air force but you don't make rank as fast.
The minimum AFQT score for enlistment in the Army is 31, regardless of whether you have a high school diploma or a GED. Waivers can be used to lower the minimum score enlistment score to 26, if the current recruiting requirements allow. If you want to qualify for incentive programs like the Army College Fund, college loan repayment and monetary enlistment bonuses, you typically need a minimum score of 50.
The minimum AFQT score for enlistment in the Army is 31, regardless of whether you have a high school diploma or a GED. Waivers can be used to lower the minimum score enlistment score to 26, if the current recruiting requirements allow. If you want to qualify for incentive programs like the Army College Fund, college loan repayment and monetary enlistment bonuses, you typically need a minimum score of 50.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 6:16 am to scormi51
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you will be in the best shape of your life (a lot better shape than the other branches
I've seen Marines that could be used as submarines
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