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Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:28 pm to okietiger
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What? Not agreeing with our political leaders =\= them being less powerful than Kim K.
I'm not even talking about agreeing with them. The overwhelming majority of people in Congress aren't qualified to be in office. Most of them are morons.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:36 pm to RedRifle
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At the height of his popularity he was easily one of the biggest athletes in America
yeah no 
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:45 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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yeah no
he was pretty big news back in '76, was titled the world's greatest athlete and probably made a pretty good case for it
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:45 pm to RedRifle
Why do people care what Bruce does?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:48 pm to SabiDojo
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shite, I'd probably start crossdressing out of sheer boredom. Dude has accomplished more in his life than any of us ever will.
so he may not have been born that way but made that way from over achieving and running out of things to do.Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:49 pm to Tommy Patel
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made that way from over achieving and running out of things to do.
he's a victim!
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:53 pm to Rouge
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good for him
Why is it "good for him"?
He is clearly mentally and emotionally disturbed. This s a real problem and it is a real problem in our society that we are normalizing this behavior.
He wasn't born this way. He didn't think he was really a woman in a man's body. That is not how he felt when he was younger, despite what he says now.
And, even if he did feel that way, that is a sign of some kind of personality disorder and not something that we should "good for him" for.
Dear God. Where have we come to in this society. We are told that we have to accept gay sex and that if anyone has a problem with it then they are a bigoted homophobe. Well, people can do what they want and there are disordered desires everywhere. I get it. What people want to do on their own is their business.
But,what can't a society draw a line anywhere and say that men who think they are women and women who think they are men is a sign of psychological disorder? No, that isn't "normal" and it should not be celebrated. It should be treated.
I am not saying that we reject the person. People struggle with all kinds of things. Loving and accepting him as a person does not mean that we have to accept him wearing a dress as a normal thing and say, "good for him."
We have gone off the rails completely now.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:59 pm to Prominentwon
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It's beyond my mental capacity/comprehension to understand why people care about stuff like this.
Then try to think past yourself for just moment.
I do not personall care what Bruce Jenner decides to do or not do. But, this is the "new frontier." He is a poster child for the next thing that we are supposed to accept and if anyone has a problem with gender confusion being normalized in society, then we are the ones with a problem.
First homosexuality is normalized and accepted in society.
Then marriage is redefined away from what it has meant for millenia into a new form.
Now, we are supposed to erase gender distinctions altogether and call it a social construct that is a variable and that can be changed despite our biology.
If anyone has a problem with the new thing forced upon us as normal, then we are the ones with the problem. Who keeps setting the rules here?
Bruce Jenner is not the issue. It is th movement and how society is being reconstructed that is the issue. If you can't see that, you are blind.
Jenner is mentally ill. Why should we celebrate that and declare it to be normal? He deserves our compassion and care, not to be normalized.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:02 pm to AlaTiger
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First homosexuality is normalized and accepted in society.
Then marriage is redefined away from what it has meant for millenia into a new form.
Now, we are supposed to erase gender distinctions altogether and call it a social construct that is a variable and that can be changed despite our biology.
I think the book of Revelations touches on this a bit
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:04 pm to Rouge
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It's ok if you're into that kind of thing and find him attractive.
it is not my thing, but I am also not going to sit here and tell another person what is acceptable and not acceptable forms of happiness (within obvious legal means)
enjoy your narrow-minded worldview
He can do what he chooses to do and I am not saying that we should stop him either. But, we should call the thing what it is. He has a mental disorder and is psychologically ill. I am not making any kind of personal judgment against the man's worth. It is very sad. Clearly, he has had a breakdown. That happens to people and it can happen at different stages of life in various ways. I get it.
The problem that I have is the reaction where people are calling this "normal" and the next frontier in legal rights. No, this is not normal. It is mental illness. He can do what he wants just like a man can howl at the moon all night if he wants to. It still doesn't change the fact that he is mentally ill.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:04 pm to AlaTiger
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Loving and accepting him as a person does not mean that we have to accept him wearing a dress as a normal thing and say, "good for him."
It's not on you to accept or not accept anything about him. His life has nothing to do with your life. He doesn't need your validation.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:04 pm to okietiger
quote:So it is Bruce's fault that a person snuck onto his property and took a picture of him?
SO frickING SICK OF ANYTHING KARADASHIAN OR JENNER.
Seriously? Why the frick do people pay attention to this absurd family? The main show, Kim K, is nothing more than a high price prostitute with a rich dad.
At least Mr. Kardashian was big time lawyer and Bruce was an elite athlete before his mental breakdown.
The rest of them are fricking pathetic. frick all of them and double frick anyone who cares or pays attention.
/endofrant
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:06 pm to okietiger
quote:Are you kidding me? You sound like an idiot. Bruce is a self made man based on being an American hero and winning the decathlon in the Olympics
The Kardashian's and Jenner's careers were launched by Kim sucking off/getting railed by Ray-J on film.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:08 pm to RedRifle
Why is it sad? I guess I could care less what he does with his personal life, but maybe I'm in the minority.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:09 pm to Goldrush25
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Loving and accepting him as a person does not mean that we have to accept him wearing a dress as a normal thing and say, "good for him."
It's not on you to accept or not accept anything about him. His life has nothing to do with your life. He doesn't need your validation.
You are full of crap. This is the same relativistic garbage that is pushed EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. new disordered behaviors are thrust into the mainstream.
"Who are we to judge?"
Then, when the new disorder is finally forced on people and accepted, any disagreement with it is considered to be akin to being in the KKK and those who are considered to be deviant are those don't celebrate gender confusion.
I am not falling for this stupidity.
Yes. HE can do what he wants. It is a free country. But, a society has NORMS for a reason. They are based on something other than the whims of the individual. Yes, HE can do what he wants and I would not make it illegal. But, there is no problem with society saying that this constitutes a mental illness and should not be accepted as legitimate behavior.
The man needs care and treatment. Not to be celebrated.
And, when he is being USED as a way to bring the revolution forward, his life has everything to do with my life, what society is all about, and what my children will be taught by this society about what gender actually is.
Wake up.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:14 pm to AlaTiger
quote:So do you think gender is more about what is taught and not just natural? You worried that boys one day will be taught to be women and they will start doing that? Seems a little paranoid to me
And, when he is being USED as a way to bring the revolution forward, his life has everything to do with my life, what society is all about, and what my children will be taught by this society about what gender actually is.
Wake up.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:17 pm to SabiDojo
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And that's all fine and good and all. I don't think anyone here thinks he should be locked up or killed for it. You have the opinion that there is nothing wrong with someone changing their gender and we disagree with you. We will go on about living our lives with our belief and you can go on living your life with yours. However, if you want to change our mind and have us start celebrating his action then you can GFY. On the flip side, if someone here wants to change your mind then they can GFT.
Personally, I don't consider myself qualified to necessarily pass judgment on it one way or the other. I don't understand what role in our psyche or brain is responsible for things like gender identity, sexual orientation, or so on. I don't know if it's natural, a mutation, a condition/disease, or just an effect caused by certain life experiences. All I do know is he made a choice and he isn't breaking any laws (that I know of).
If you are not qualified to see this as a mental disorder then your brain has turned to complete mush by a society that has brainwashed you into accepting its false premise that everything is negotiable and fluid and a social construct and that we have autonomy over our own self realization and a bunch of garbage like that.
Think, man! Wake up!
I am not angry with Jenner. I feel bad for the guy. He is clearly having a mental breakdown and he sees it as wondeful. That is called "massive self-deception" and is related to mental illness. But, the Academy is completely controlled by the New Sexual Ethic that is supposed to liberate us all that it has been completely muzzled.
So, we now normalize people changing genders and mutalting themselves all so they can feel whole and it still won't fill the void. Not that it possilby can. We have lost our minds.
I am not judging him. I am saying that this is very sad.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:20 pm to Rouge
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people that care about it are losers
Okay, what does that say about him then? He's the one doing the big interview and he stars on a reality show...
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:21 pm to AlaTiger
quote:Who is "normalizing" it? We are simply saying "who gives a freaking shite" It has ZERO effect on anyone. Bruce has not been out in the media demanding respect or your approval. He is being hounded by media and people daily. If people would not give a shite then it would go away and the media wouldnt report it
So, we now normalize people changing genders and mutalting themselves all so they can feel whole and it still won't fill the void. Not that it possilby can. We have lost our minds.
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